Pavlik: Only the truth

Sadly he'll probably suffer the same fate as Jermaine Taylor at 168, and Taylor had better boxing ability.

 

Its time for Pavlik to get a new trainer

 

I like kelly but the people saying he was the "smaller man" versus hopkins are idiots , its obvious he is really hungry getting to 160

 

it's about time pavlik and his fans stop being so ****ing delusional.

 

"Only the truth"?

Pavlik has good shots at all of Froch, Kessler and AA. Don't see him beating the others, admittedly. This is typical ESB, as soon as a guy takes one loss he immediately gets chucked in the dumpster. If Pavlik beats one of the above, he'll probably be being lauded as a Top P4P commodity! You guys are so short-sighted it's pathetic.

 

Oh yeah, and who the **** are you noob?

 

It's a bit of a hate thread but you got a point

 

Boxing fans SCREAM for competitive fights, but if a guy loses a competitive fight, they call him garbage. That's called hyprocrisy.

 

Hypocrisy? This from the guy who thought he could edit out his Pavlik excuse thread & original post AFTER people had already quoted him multiple times. THAT's revisionist hypocrisy.

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Hasegawa's getting that on a few forums. Not quite as badly as Pavlik however.

 

boxing fans like me are ok. i said he'll beat taylor due to taylor's footwork and bad defense covering the right hand, but i said overall he'll fail against a mover, counter puncher. guess what? i'm right, and i'll continue to be right. pavlik can't handle pure boxers.

 

Pavlik was well in the fight till got cut. He had made some adjustments and taking the left away from SM - he lost fair and square but it wasnt a devastating career ending loss. He can come back its just he looks beatable

 

The idea that Pavlik built a career around fighting smaller guys is a bit silly. Some people seem to place a lot more value on uninformed opinions than they place on facts. It just isn't that hard to click on Box Rec, and get the facts. Anyone who does that will find out that Pavlik fought well above the middleweight limit about 14 times. When I say 14 times I'm not including fights at 162 or below.

He did fight Zuniga at 160. Afterward Zuniga moved to 168, derailed the Victor Oganov hype train with a sweet left hook, and to this day has only lost at world title level.

Same deal with Miranda. He immediately moved up, and to this day has only lost to world titlists.

Pavlik beat Taylor at middleweight and super middleweight. Yep, the same Jermain Taylor that dethroned Hopkins, and gave Froch hell for 11 and 3/4 rounds.

People are not generally stupid. Most know all of the above. They just lead such small insignificant lives that they get some kind of perverse thrill out of kicking a world class athlete when he's down.

 

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the fact is kelly has bought some excitement to the middleweight division.