Mayweather vs Mosley - Pacquiao EXPOSED

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  1. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Is a Floyd Joy Mayweather fan really in any position whatsoever to question to the level of competition Manny has faced? Let's even forget for a second that he has HOF'ers Barrera, Marquez and Morales on his resume a total of 7 times, with only one of those coming as an official loss. Let's forget for a second about the De La Hoya victory where every single ****ing person on the planet had Oscar Winning that. Or the fact the Hatton had just looked quite impressive in his previous outing beating the **** out of Malignaggi at his OWN weight class, not Welterweight where someone who shall remain unnamed goaded him.

    Now can you just IMAGINE how long of a youtube video one could splice together with that same ****ing cliched Requiem For A Dream piece about Floyd Mayweather's hypocrisy? One with quotes about not fighting to see who the best is, about telling Manny to be his own man in one breath and saying "Talk to my promoter" on the other when Brian Kenny asked him about upcoming fights. About arguably his best win in Diego Corrales and how that is tainted by weight issues the same way the Manny's fight with De La Hoya was? About how Floyd says he wants to clean up the sport and won't take a fight with Manny because of PED suspicions and then signs his very next fight with a proven steroid user? What about a two-year layoff from the Welterweight division when it was far and away the most stacked and dangerous division going, only to come back after the top fighters in the division had beaten the **** out of themselves and Paul Williams had finally moved up? About Ellerbie getting caught in a flat-out lie regarding Floyd's use of Lidocaine in previous fights? About Floyd's team getting cornered into fight Shane when really all he wanted to do was fight Matthew Hatton in England instead. Or making Marquez come up three weight classes above his best and still coming in overweight on fight night?

    Oh yes, we could have quite a lengthy video on our hands at that point, couldn't we?
     
  2. TommyV

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    That's not agreeing then, is it? Roach himself said on record "Give me a 5 day window". He got 14 and they still turned it down.
     
  3. TommyV

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    And there you have it folks.
     
  4. brod78

    brod78 $$$$$ Full Member

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    Yea you could say they ducked him, anyway pac only fought once at ww at that time and roach knows that mosley is too dangerous for pac (who was a small ww) so i think its reasonable for them to duck/avoid mosley AT THAT TIME. But now, i say pac is accustomed to the weight(doesnt matter if hes small or not) and i think theyll fight the winner barring any failed negotiation.
     
  5. Da Chin Chekka

    Da Chin Chekka Chi-Town!!! Full Member

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    :shock:

    Been trying to get this point across, thanks for the help!!:good
     
  6. hooligan

    hooligan Millionaire Bum Full Member

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    pac aint a legit welterweight...
     
  7. Pax

    Pax Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Seriously, what are you an *******. A boxers uses his smarts to punch his opponent in the face. Do you think if a boxer is stronger due to PED's his punch would do more damage? It's amazing to think PBF deserves haters for making boxing a clean sport.
     
  8. Young PW

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6RB5jnO1L8[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6RB5jnO1L8[/ame]

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6RB5jnO1L8[/ame]

    this is better exposure
     
  9. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Did you see who made the vid?:lol: The one and only MAESTRO! That alone should tell you what to expect.:rofl Look......All the vid showed was a clear biased point of view that only highlighted areas that would promote his agenda. And if you know anything about MAE.....it's that he has an agenda and it goes against anything manny!:yep

    Roach is and has been looking out for his fighters best interests. That's his job. Shane was a viable option but not the BEST option. Cotto and Shane at that time were more difficult challenges than what DLH turned out to be. But NO ONE ever really gave PAC a chance at beating Oscar before they fought.....Manny destroyed him......so Manny took on Cotto who BEAT Shane a year earlier and it makes him twice as much so it was really a no brainer.
     
  10. Da Chin Chekka

    Da Chin Chekka Chi-Town!!! Full Member

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    What your saying about the author of the video may be true but he did present facts. Freddie roach did say this right?
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  11. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sorry for the long post guys.


    I don't take anything away from Barrera I. That was Pac's best fight.

    If anybody has been receiving gift decisions it could be argued Pac has against Marquez. Many people say Marquez won both fights. That's the same reasoning you use for DLH v Mayweather right? And Morales, come on, seriously? Pac could not beat Morales in his prime as the first fight showed. Are you suggesting Malignaggi is some kind of litmus test for greatness?

    HUH, Floyd took the fight cuz Shane takes the test. If Pac takes the test, Floyd fights Pac. Why is this so hard to understand for *******s?

    The top fighters by whom, the ESB boxing forums? On any given night back then, the best fighters were Cotto, Margarito and Williams. Cotto and Margarito haven't exactly turned out. Williams has fought Martinez, who else? Don't say Margacheato. The top fighters according to Ring magazine are Mosley and Pac. Pac doesn't want to take a test because he's clean and has nothing to hide. And Mosley took the challenge. Doesn't matter how you perceive he got there, the fact is he is fighting who many experts believe is the best at this weight.


    Marquez called Floyd out genius. Why shouldn't Floyd take a tune up fight after that long layoff? After all, it can be argued Marquez is the equal of Pacquiao except Marquez takes some nasty urine drug instead of who knows what Pac takes. Floyd couldn't make weight. Why do an Oscar and lose any chance of bigger fights? Marquez still wanted to fight with a penalty to Floyd. Don't blame Floyd, Marquez could have said no and not taken the money.
     
  12. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He didn't duck shane bro. He would have fought Shane if Shane was the best option for his fighter. At the time Cotto was therefore Cotto got the shot at Manny. I don't think Floyd ducked Shane at all b/c Floyd could have fought Shane anytime but he chose the path that offered him more money with lest risk.

    Cotto beat Shane....Plus was a stable mate under the top rank banner and Manny could make more money so everything made more sense to go with Miguel. Floyd in my opinion doesn't duck anyone.......well...other than the fight with Manny. But that's anther topic. Floyd jsut follows the money and if it makes dollars it makes sense. It just so happened that most of the money fights were also fights that were less challenging aside from his fight with DLH. And that was the point where Floyd got his fame.
     
  13. Da Chin Chekka

    Da Chin Chekka Chi-Town!!! Full Member

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    Fact Floyd asked Mosley for a fight and Mosley said no, so that's not Floyd's fault. You should say that Shane could've fought Floyd but he chose not to.... Pac-man has his reasons for not taking Olympic style drug testing and Floyd has his reasons for asking for it...that's how I see that one. Not putting blame on anyone. I will say this though most people would take a 25 million dollar drug test.....
     
  14. RobertV77

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    Juanma at featherweight, DLH was close to being in a medical emergency that night. He made a big mistake and paid for it. Because of the strangeness of it all it will have very little effect on his legacy.
     
  15. twopiece

    twopiece Pugilistic Ambassador Full Member

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    It's just Floyd haters. That's all. They buy into this pre-fight persona that he has used so effectively to sell tickets. People pay to see Floyd lose and end up getting to watch him put on a boxing clinic as the line his pockets. It's a cycle now.

    Before Floyd "Money" Mayweather, there was Floyd Mayweather Jnr, a future Hall of Famer in the making. If people followed his career more closely over the years, then they would know better.