Floyd Keeps Saying There's no "Blueprint" to beat him...

Good riddance then, as much as i valued his contribution. That **** should not go unpunished. I ****ing hate computer nerds who wreck my pc. :fire

 

I've just seen both fighters weigh in...and would like to weigh in on a few thoughts. Initially I thought Mayweather would win this fight in a lopsided manner by decision. I'm not quite doing a 180, but feel the need to make a few revisions. At first I thought Mayweather would use his style and positioning to create distance between himself and Shane's right hand by keeping his lead foot close to Mosley's...Basic boxing 101 stuff, but it would suffice as a plan to take one of Mosely's weapons away, then use speed and reflexes and pot shot to a decision win. But after watching some (more) film I noticed that Mosely's stance is more squared up than the usual fighter...does this mean anything? Maybe or maybe not. It will make him open to Mayweather's quick up jab, and lead right hands that much is sure...But it also (IMO) cuts down the distance Shane's right hand has to travel, especially to the body. It's my guess that Richardson has cooked up a scheme to concentrate on Mayweather's body...Especially right hands to the body...a favorite play by the original Sugarman. Mosely said two interesting thingsduring the press cons that caught my attention, firstly he mentioned that he is the taller and rangier fighter, Secondly he noticed that Mayweather has aged himself(?) Perhaps he means that Mayweather is using his defense more and his legs less...which he is. But that defense is fantastic.

One more thing Mayweather was able to read Marquez like a book in regards to his positioning...Marquez (as great as he is) would tip Floyd by dipping his left shoulder or turning his torso before he unloaded his shots, as a consquence Floyd was able to adjust his spacing...this is amazing stuff to be able to read an opponent like this. However Shane (with his squared up stance) does not telegraph his punches quite as much...and he has a jerky rythym that may throw off a reader like Mayweather somewhat.
I'm not going to change my pick from a Mayweather decision win...but it got just got closer for me.
Everybody enjoy the fight! I think it will be good.

 

well castillo came pretty damn close. obviously you need to be well-rounded, and have technical skills but the two biggest problems that would give mayweather is size and work rate. castillo strength cleary gave him problems. and dlh significant size advantage also made that fight closer then what it was suppose to. and as far as workrate, mayweather is very conservative, he kind reminds you of hopkins and like hopkins, he can get outworked. of course that easier said then done considering his defense and counet punching ability but its possible.

 

Ever heard of 'styles make fights'?

This fight will be won/lost with the feet.

Shane doesn't have the feet. Another fight that favours Floyd heavily with styles.

There's a few out there that would make it at least 50-50. Doubt Floyd would ever face them though.

 

Man, he was always being a ****

Real shame to lose him; funny as **** and a great poster.

Manassa's AWOL (again) too. Ain't heard from him in months.

 

It's the planting of his feet just before he throws that makes me think he has no chance of winning.

Floyd will just move out of range, re-set, pot shot, move out of range, repeat.

All night.

Stinker. Floyd wins a UD.

Saying that WAR MOSLEY:happy

 

http://*********************/2010/05/01/keys-2-defeat/

What do you think?

blocked, damn

here it is

Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. “Sugar” Shane Mosley is a bout that has seemingly always been talked about, by fans and insiders alike. The match-up is an intriguing one; both men are physical specimens, and have both sat atop the mythical ‘Pound for Pound’ throne. Both superstars have campaigned successfully in all divisions from lightweight to light middleweight (with Floyd competing in the super featherweight division during his early years); capturing 11 titles; chalking up a mind-boggling 86 victories and recording 64 knockouts between them. Finally, they meet to settle which one of them is the better man.
Floyd Joy Sinclair, was taught the rudiments of boxing from the age in which he could stand up. At the age most infants are learning to ride a bike he was throwing fluid ten punch combinations as well as some professionals. He was built to box, and to do successfully.

Mayweather, as he would come to be known, is the best defensive fighter in boxing today. He is a technician. He figures out his opponents then bewilders them with his speed and style. Once a smooth and busy boxer-puncher, Mayweather has developed a more defensive and arguably harder to figure out approach. His brilliance has carried him to victories over names such as; Gennaro Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Jose Luis Castillo (twice), Arturo Gatti, Zab Judah, Oscar de la Hoya, Ricky Hatton and most recently Juan Manuel Marquez.

Despite his fairly impressive list of victims, Floyd has not proven his God-given talents against the caliber of opponents his skills require. For many he has the potential to be regarded as an ‘All-Time Great,’ but has failed to prove himself as such by beating other great fighters. Now he has his chance.

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Shane Mosley – the quintessential ‘old school’ fighter. Mosley is a man who ripped through the lightweight division before conquering the welterweight and light middleweight divisions. He has faced everyone worthwhile in a talent rich era. His defining moment was moving up to welterweight and defeating Oscar de la Hoya. After battling equally for six rounds Mosley turned it on during the second half of the fight. He pulled out an astonishing victory, which started a memorable run in the welterweight and light middleweight divisions.

Mosley has been defeated five times during his career, but the losses were all against men who nobody else wanted to face. Among them; the late but great Vernon Forrest (twice), light middleweight staple Ronald “Winky” Wright (twice), and the then-fearsome and spectacular Miguel Cotto. The defeats to the late Vernon Forrest were during the period when Mosley ruled the welterweights, but there should be credit giving to him for accepting the challenge of this avoided and deserving fighter.

The losses to Wright were at light middleweight against another avoided danger-man. Each time Mosley immediately rematched each man, and was defeated again in narrow decision losses. The defeat to Cotto was his most recent loss, but Mosley has gone on to beat the ‘Cotto-conqueror’ – Antonio Margarito in his last fight. Mosley outclassed the iron man from Mexico for 9 rounds before sensationally stopping him.

Mosley is a fast handed, but not nearly as fast-footed, boxer-dazzler. He uses a light jab to bust his way into mid-range and ‘dazzle’ away with rapid fire combinations. Mosley is adept at using angles to confuse his opponent, which has enhanced his reputation stylistically speaking as a boxer, regardless of the label’s accuracy.

Mosley has continued to show strength and has refined his skill set under world renowned trainer Nazim Richardson. In this bout Mosley looks to prove his claims of greatness.

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The Key’s To Victory ​

Floyd Mayweather

• Mayweather needs to establish his rhythm early. His jab is the key and he’ll have to find the distance. Once he has finds the distance and timing, Mayweather is in full control. He can then accurately find and strike his target. This also stops Mosley from establishing an early rhythm. Also, Floyd should look to get Mosley’s respect early as Vernon Forrest did. The strategy of Forrest resulted in Mosley fighting cautiously.
• Keep focused and maintain control. Too many times in a bout Mayweather looks to coast by, backing himself voluntarily to the ropes and the corners and looking to rely on his defense. This gives Mosley his best opportunity.
• Mayweather NEEDS to keep the bout in the middle of the ring and long range where he does his best work. In the middle of the ring he can maximixe his hand and foot speed, and step in with his long left hooks and lead rights. After all, Mosley was picked apart by Forrest in the middle of the ring from long range. If Mayweather gives up this territory or settles into a different zone, he is in trouble! On the ropes Mayweather can be overwhelmed and tends to let his offense shut down.
  
• Use lateral movement. This is an obvious, but often overlooked piece of advice. When Mosley brings his attack forward he sets his feet to throw mid-range flurries, if Mayweather takes a step to the side Mosley has to reset his feet. With Mayweather’s speed advantage he can constantly make Mosley reset. Mayweather showed good lateral movement against Juan Manuel Marquez, he needs to build on that.

Shane Mosley

• Bully Mayweather into the ropes. In doing this Mosley forces Mayweather into the kind of fight he can win. If he can dictate the range and tempo of the bout he can take Mayweather out of his comfort zone. Mosley’s strength advantage will be uncomfortable for Mayweather to deal with, as was the case against Oscar de La Hoya. De la Hoya’s strength advantage pinned Mayweather, who was unable to find escape routes.

• Mosley has to be clever, he cannot just charge in like Ricky Hatton. Mayweather has to set up his advances and rushes with clever feints, and an even more intelligent jab.

• De la Hoya was able to get Mayweather to the ropes with a stiff jab to the chest, and Mosley displayed an excellent “jab to the chest” against Antonio Margarito. However, Mosley did have the luxury of facing a Margarito that was not even trying to defend himself. Mayweather won’t be as easy, as he will be parrying that jab and stepping outside it. De la Hoya only was successful in negating the tactic when he stepped in behind the jab, and hit Mayweather with enough authority to “push him back.” Mosley is not renowned for a strong jab so he better have learned it.

• The other method of getting Mayweather to the ropes is with a “serpentine-like” motion. Again, de la Hoya is the example. He was able to feint a movement forward using his feet and upper body, then pull back and swiftly step in with his jab. This is the method Mosley should adopt. With Mosley’s speed and reflexes he should be able to pull it off with success.

• Getting Mayweather to the ropes is one challenge, being successful while there is another. Hatton was able to get Mayweather on the ropes but could not capitalize on it by loading up his punches. De la Hoya and Jose Luis Castillo on the other hand, had more success by letting their hands go against the pinned Mayweather.

Mosley has to get in and let his hands fly, with swift combinations and flurries. By throwing combinations that keep Mayweather busy defend against these intrusions he won’t be able to fire back with his own punches.

Mosley should stand in close and let his hands go with his trademark blurring flurries. He should modify his approach to flurry, step back into his optimal (mid-range) distance and let go of a few hurtful punches. After each instance he should either hold Mayweather, or retreat and get his energy back. This strategy is supported by Sky commentator and former WBC Lightweight Champion of the World Jim Watt, who stated that he thought to beat Mayweather you should box,
“In ten/fifteen second flurries and make sure your punches are in bunches.”

• Watt was talking about the de la Hoya fight, but his advice is still relevant as these flurries and combos keep Mayweather busy, and briefly short-circuit his offensive machinery.

• Mosley can be successful by; closing down Mayweather’s space, limiting his angles and by keeping him busy. This is particularly important, as Mosley does not have the technical skills to outbox Mayweather.

Perhaps the corners have different plans set for their men, nonetheless it will be fascinating to see how Team Mosley tackles the Mayweather conundrum. Whatever happens, boxing fans are in for an intriguing fight.

 

Agree, agree, agree, agree and AGREE

 

Actually the jab will be the key to this fight. Mosley was sunk against Forrest and Wright because of a good stiff jab, not flight of feet. Mosley was competitive with ODLH because his jab is too inconsistent.
Not only does Mayweather have to get his jab working, he has to put some heat on Mayweather to keep him stuck outside. I think your going to see a more offensive Mayweather in this fight, and it should heat up pretty quickly.

 

The day has arrived...

 

I just wagered $25 on Mosley for the win, and placed a $5 bet that he finishes Mayweather inside the distance.

I believe that Mayweather is superior to Mosley technique wise, and was leaning towards him when the fight was announced. I've changed my mind. I think Mosley's strength will be the difference here. Mosley will apply the pressure if he is being outboxed. Castillo and Hatton had their moments applying pressure. Mosley is bigger, stronger, and faster than those guys.

I also couldn't pass up the odds.

 

:rofl