Floyd Keeps Saying There's no "Blueprint" to beat him...

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  1. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can see a late stoppage for PBF based on accumulation. I can also see a close UD for Pac. Most likely outcome will be a clear UD for Floyd though.

    But when I think back, a ******* brought up this match-up in 2006/2007. People where laughing at him and said Mayweather would be much to big and that he would kill Pac - and I agreed with them. To me even seriously talking about this match-up shows Pac´s greatness.
     
  2. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, you are eternally wrong there. Listen, it is Mayweather who should have recognized his own abilities and fought iron sooner.

    Fans like you were far more confident in his potential to be truly great than he himself was, and that is clear by his record. It shows up with an exclamation with Marquez, a featherweight with one LW bout, and with an expletive when Floyd felt the need to come in 2 lbs over the contracted weight.

    It is Mayweather, not I, who should have recognized his own greatness. I go by what I see, not by what I "feel."

    Neither he nor I can make informed determinations about his standing when he's retiring for no apparent reason and failing to fight those he should have, when he should have. Swelling Floyd's rank based on speculation is imbecilic. He needed to fight Shane, he should have fought other elite WWs along the way.

    He beat Shane and has proven that he is great. If his fans knew their boxing history and took a look at his record yesterday at 3pm, it wouldn't look very impressive. Not in terms of ATG at least.

    It looks better now but if he is serious about being ranked among the elites that he now merely blasphemes, he ought to shut his mouth and start signing contracts.
     
  3. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    On last night's performance? I think it's less likely that Mayweather wins now. It's a close fight in my view, but can he keep up with Pacquiao's offensive speed with his legs in the state they're in? You can't let Pacquiao get off on you, never IMO. Either plenty of lateral movement or making him fall short Marquez-style and then coming back over the top. And even then, you have to deal with the speed, the angles, the combinations - how can you counter a guy when he's already winging another left hand your way.
     
  4. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Watch Pac's punch output drop when he shares a ring with Mayweather. Just watch.
     
  5. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    It will, no doubt. It did against Marquez. I'm not expecting Mayweather to brawl the guy. But can he slow him down enough - can he control the pace? I'm not sure. You have to have a distinct speed edge to do that.
     
  6. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    That's right. Funny how so many on here just don't get it.
     
  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Mayweather will hit Manny hard and often.
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    If Floyd opens up like he did against Shane, he'll be hit plenty of times himself, and hard.
     
  9. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    I agree there.

    I'm afraid to think what Floyd at his best would have done to past prime Morales and Marquez, the guys manny has built his rep on.Had he been forced to face a floyd or MCacallum level type or an Ernesto Marcel at feather he'd have been put into the ground and forced to either move up without that rep being so high, or forced to stay put and accept second best most likely.
     
  10. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    That's just not true. Did Marquez have a speed edge? Did Forrest or Wright have it over mosley? No. It takes ability
     
  11. Muchmoore

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    No you don't.
     
  12. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    I don't think he will fight in the same manner. He won't have to push the fight like he did against mosley because he will hold a large reach advantage. Plus he will be leary of pacs power
     
  13. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    What was it you said? "It's easy to outwork a paralysed opponent."
     
  14. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    No, but he didn't control the pace entirely. He slowed it. For Mayweather to pick and choose when the exchanges occur takes a big edge that isn't there.

    What relevance does that have?
     
  15. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I meant hat literally because i've been picking on cripples, but yeah, it works here too.