Floyd Keeps Saying There's no "Blueprint" to beat him...

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Likewise, I'm afraid to think what Manny would have done to Marquez at 147lbs, and Zab Judah, in addition to Jose Luis Castillo at Lightweight. I was going to mention Ricky Hatton but we already got to see what happened there, he rendered him unconscious in the second round...and this happened at 140lbs, supposedly Hatton's optimal weight.
     
  2. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not necessarily, one of the majorly overlooked things in this fight for me is the reach advantage that mayweather has. The difference in speed is negligable but mayweather can keep manny at distance with the jab and manny needs to get inside that, mayweather then will be timing his forward attacks with lightning fast straight rights, a punch that pacquaio is very open to
     
  3. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Your post implies speed is the only factor, it's not. Mayweather strands guys in no mans land with his ability to put the fight at the range he wants it. His speed only makes it tougher for opponents to close the gap but it's not the only reason. It takes reach and a good jab to get close to him. He's no longer in a position where physically he's at a deficit and guys can muscle him a little at 47. I always felt Vernon Forrest would give him fits in recent history and when Roger mayweather was asked that very same question Leading up to this fight his answer was the same.
     
  4. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Reach/a good jab are sufficient, but not necessary, criteria for getting to him. Pacquiao has neither, but he has speed of foot. He can chase Mayweather as fast or faster than Mayweather can back off. That means Pacquiao can dictate the tempo to an extent.
     
  5. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    This begs the question a little, I feel. Well, why will Mayweather's leads and jabs be more effective than Pacquiao's combinations? It all depends on who can control the distance, who has the better footwork, who can control the exchanges. These are things that need to be considered in themselves.
     
  6. itrymariti

    itrymariti Cañas! Full Member

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    Pacquiao isn't going to be paralysed like Mosley was.
     
  7. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No doubt, i wasn't exactly analyzing the fight just stating that because mayweather doesn't have the clear speed advatage he could not neccesarly control the pace, i certainly believe he could.

    Both fighters bring things to the table that will cause the other problems that they will need to overcome. That is why this fight is so important to both and is the pathway for one of them to true greatness in the history of the sport in my opinion.
     
  8. lefthook31

    lefthook31 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Yes he will, he has less reach and worse defense
     
  9. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Pacgirl has been stopped before and against PBF he will be stopped. His defense is poor and he will exposed be PBF.
     
  10. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Go away, troll.
     
  11. African Cobra

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    Truth hurts does it Buddhaa.
     
  12. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    Nah, I think its a wide points win to Floydy boy.

    But really? Alot of Floyd's work was forcing forward but feinting and actually countering a hesitant Mosley with sharp counters. Everything else was then a jab with an aim of making counters.

    Agreed.

    Although Pacquiao's achievements are phenomenal and deserve to be recognised very highly.
     
  13. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Yes, really. Get to bed.
     
  14. duranimal

    duranimal Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mayweather will never ever fight Pacman, if that was Pacman in the 2nd round then Floyds KO'd, after watching the Mosley fight i'am now totally convinced that Pac's angles of attack will crush Mayweather's defence, i just think Pac will get too Floyd before Floyd gets to him, Mayweather has absolutly no answer to the fast feints & side to side in/out waspish speed that pac's going to employ. I was'nt sure before the Mosley fight but that 2nd round has sold it for me that Floyd gets demolished & he ****in well knows it too, hence you'll see him flee up to 154 or above in seach of safer ground.
     
  15. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    I give you big kudo's for being able to shake n' groove respect wise with the modern day among a very resistent crowd. McGrain too, but he is much younger and more in line with this time age wise. The bottom line is that we have been and are indeed viewing some really great fighters like Paq, PBF and Hopkins. Tho Bernard is surely at the end of a very long tether i will be sure to enjoy the rest of Paq and PBF present time.