Why Calzaghe is greater, May overated, Mosely useless.

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also thats not racist, it's realism

 

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He ******, how's it been, haven't talked to your stupid ass lately.

 

You make somewhat of a valid point, however what you should really look at is who Shane has fought and the risk he took to be considered an ATG. I like Calzaghe, but I fault him for not seeking the tough fights.

Vernon Forrest was a big threat and eliete welter when Mosely fought him. Forrest was undefeated and simply had the style to give Mosely trouble. Shane faught Forrest twice and lost twice (no shame in that). Shane also moved up in weight and fought a prime Winky Wright who was being ducked by most in his division and lost to him twice (no shame in that).

Don't get me wrong, there is no moral victory in lossing, but I think real boxing fans can respect a guy for taking high risk tough fights and being competitive in them to prove he's the best. That's why ODLH is an ATG, he fought a lot of though fights and usually lost them, but he won some to.

Calzahge never did that, he was content to defend the WBO tittle for years in Europe. The WBO is the lesser of the belts and any fighter worth is salt knows that you've got to come to the U.S. if you want to fight elite level competition. Hamed did it, Hatton did it, Lewis did it, even Froch did it and so will Khan and they all did it in their prime not waiting until guys were faded and past their prime.

I'll give Calzaghe his due for protecting the "0" but I can't rate him with Shane becasue Shane took high risk fights and beat and lost to some of the best. Calzaghe never took that risk, he should have cemented his legacy by fight tough fights, and I don't count Jeff Lacy, I'll give him Kessler and that's it. You don't get ATG points for beating none prime / faded big names such as Jones and Hopikins (it didn't mean anything when he did it). If he had fought and beaten or lost to those guys in their prime, it would be a different story.

Calzaghe himself did nothing to even be considered a P4P figher in his prime and it's a shame that he's left it to his fans to fight on disccusion boards about his legacy..his career should have done that for them. Fans of British fighters like Lennox Lewis don't have to do that because he cemented his legacy in the ring and that's not counting his victory over Tyson, he was going to be an ATG with or without Tyson (although beating a prime Tyson would have been huge). You'll be arguing this point until you die my friend and it's unfortunate that Joe put his fans in this position.

 

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A crude joke but funny nonetheless.

 

You're a ****ing loser :rofl

 

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The only reason why your saying Mosley is useless now is because he got his ass kicked. Should it have gone the other way you would be singing a different tune. I was not a Calzaghe fan, but I will give him his props for retiring undefeated. I don't think he was a better boxer or more skillful then Mayweather. He's been down in several fights although he won.

 

This thread needs Nick Powers in it. :yep

 

It's sad that while you do understand boxing very well, you get to make this kind of joke threads. Even if you do have some valid points, people will dismiss you because of the ridiculous way you present them, and rightfully so.

 

Ive always liked Mosley for his attitude in being willing to take on the best. Champion in 3 weight divisions, does count for something. But I see some of your points about him. His resume isnt as good as I thought when I thought about it longer, but I do think Mosley deserves credit for his 1st victory over De La Hoya who to me is an ATG. His 2nd fight with Oscar, which I thought Oscar won, Shane was on PEDs which loses the credit it was once given. Mosleys other real win of note is Margarito, but sadly that can be questioned now as we dont know if Margarito has cheated throughout his career, but still a good comeback win. But yes I see what your saying Mosley resume isnt quite what we may think it is

This is what happens when a fighter is in the public eye, any win or loss they have gets exagerated. Its happening now with the super 6, because the fighters in it are more known and well advertised. Every win or loss they have gets recognition. The Ward - Green fight is a good example, that if Ward beats Green it will go down as a good significant victory, when Green hasnt really beaten anyone of note. Yet if the fight between Bute and Steiglitz happens and Bute wins, it will be said Bute has beaten Euro rubbish, when if you really look, Steiglitz has a better resume than Green with Steiglitzs wins over Berrio, (undefeated) Balzay & (undefeated) Gutknecht.
The Ring magazine are of course going to focus on fighters out of the country they work, same as Boxing Monthly does, its just because The Ring invented a belt everyone believes their every word. As you say brainwashed people. Remember they had Hopkins in the P4P ratings when he lost to Calzaghe, beat someone 2 divisions lighter didnt fight for a year and then fought a nobody, they also had him as #1 LHW for a long time and up until he fought Jones he had only beaten Tarver (with 4 loses) years before.
Funny though everyone believed the Ring hype about Lacy yet when Calzaghe ruined him, he was never that good anyway. Well he wasnt after.

 

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