Your opinions on Mayweather now?

Do you think it was the same Mayweather?

Mayweather last night fought with much more intent than he did against Marquez.

 

I appreciate that.

I did read Peter5's post, and nothing he said really would explain Mosley becoming tired that early. Just to clarify, I'm not suggesting the low punch output was entirely as a result of being tired, I'm suggesting that Mosley's age and inactivity was a huge factor in him losing 11 rounds. There is no reluctance on my part to give Floyd credit for a wonderful victory, he looked fantastic, but I was literally shocked as it was going on. "Why is Shane breathing so heavily, he's hardly done anything". This was prior to the counters that were bouncing off his face in round 3.

I am in complete disagreement with Jim Watt who said that age and inactivity was not a factor, it had to have been, I just didn't envision it being THAT much of a factor. For the record, I predicted an 8-4 type win in favor of Floyd Mayweather Jr.

 

Mosely didnt fight well, he seemed tired, tense and clueless, but I think the point has to be made that rather than looking at "father time" and all the other things, we should look at what the opponent, Floyd, did to create a situation that made Shane fight like he did. Every punch Shane thought of throwing, Floyd would counter, accurately too, its a kind of mental dissintegration we saw Shane go through, when a fighter is faced with the reality that whatever he attempts will be sent back with interest, physicality isnt the whole issue here, mentally Shane was drained

 

Absolutely. Aside from a few flashes though, Mosley was loading up on his shots and I know people will cite that Mosley has always done that, but not quite like he did last night. He would pull back and then hesitate, sometimes Floyd would scurry backwards to the ropes, and Mosley just wouldn't get his shot off, but instead fall into the clinch. He couldn't pull the trigger any more. If anything, I came away from the fight thinking that trying to deal with a Manny Pacquiao, who can go 32 rounds at a high pace, who has shown concussive power at 147lbs, could be a difficult task for the man who calls himself Money.

 

My eyes must have deceived me then. His mouth was wide open, he was breathing relatively heavily, getting off his stool very slowly, and he looked out of it in the center of the ring by round 3. I'll have to rewatch the fight.

 

Mosely didnt fight smart for sure, but credit to Floyd for making him hesitate me thinks, he made Shane doubt his own game, his own skills, his own speed, which is half the battle won. :good Manny will pose a different set of problems for Floyd, his angles for sure are going to bring out the best, or will have to, in him.

 

I think the mental aspect of last nights fight on Shane has as much to do with his output as anything physical. Doubting your ability to win a fight early, in front of thousands of people, while getting countered or picked off at will must eat at your heart and psyche

 

You've been on the money this whole thread McGrain (No pun intended).

This whole "Shane was dead tired after round 2" nonsense is just that... nonsense. I honestly wonder if Addie has participated in sport in his life. That's the way it sounds from a perspective like that. Mosley looked more frustrated and weary to throw than tired after round 2. He had a confused look on his face for most of the fight. The guy was having a conversation with Mayweather in the middle of the ring in the middle rounds for Christ Sake.

I do think that his twitchy, nervous, tightening made him burn up energy and be a bit more tired. But that wasn't the real problem. It's not like he was unable to throw hard punches at round 3.

Shavers can reiterate that sentiment about tensing up and burning out.

 

I dislike you more each day.

 

It's just because you're so dogmatic. And while I'm hard-headed, I'm not as dogmatic.

 

I've always liked Floyd. he's not overrated like some fighters I know

 

...It's because of posts like that, actually.