For The 2nd Time In Less Than A Week, Tim Smith Lies About Manny Pacquiao

We've been over this territory just a few days ago, as my previous thread pointed out:

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222331

Tim Smith, however, just can't seem to stop lying his corpulent ass off about Manny Pacquiao. And, as we said previously, if Tim Smith of the New York Daily News keeps lying about Pacquiao, we will continue to call him out about it.

Smith's present lie is the same as his previous one. Let's take a look:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/more_sports/2010/05/03/2010-05-03_mayweathers_riding_high.html

That's a lie.

Again, as is elaborated at greater length in my previous post, Pacquiao agreed to Mayweather's unfounded, arbitrary demands for random blood testing.

What he did not agree to, however, was Floyd's capricious timeline for when the random testing should be cut-off in the lead up to the bout.

This matter is fully explained in the previous post.

Tim Smith's diminished credibility as a journalist because of previous unsupported statements regarding Manny Pacquiao and Smith's follow-up to his unsupported statements is also documented in my previous post. No need to type it all out again here.

Suffice to say, Tim Smith has zero credibility when it comes to Manny Pacquiao. He is a proven, repetitive and unrepentant liar about the world Pound-For-Pound boxing king.

I will repeat once again for Tim Smith and his ilk: If you continue to fabricate stories about Manny Pacquiao -- or any other fighter -- you will be held to account. If your publication chooses to continue your employment despite your increasingly pockmarked history, that is their business. But the baseless smears will not go unanswered.

Bank on that, Tim. Real talk.

 

Wrong. Not real talk. By you or Smith.

I'm not writing the whole thing out again. It's well laid-out in the previous thread. I'll try to help you with the CliffsNotes version here:

* Manny Pacquiao -- based upon no reasonable suspicions or questionable ties -- agreed to Floyd Mayweather's demand for random blood testing as a part of their potential showdown. I repeat:

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* For no reason at all and against the wishes of his own team and counter to the advice of a medical expert or experts, Floyd Mayweather chose to stand fast on a completely arbitrary deadline of 14 days before the fight (that random testing would be halted). That was his choice, and one supported by no one save himself.

* Floyd Mayweather killed the fight with Pacquiao because he -- just him, acting as his own medical advisor -- decided that 14 days was crucial and 24 days was not sufficient.

* Manny Pacquiao agreed to submit to random blood testing, and he consented to do so within a range of time that Mayweather's own medical advisor(s) told him was sufficient to ensure that Pacquiao would receive no measurable PED benefit were Pacquiao to have been taking PED's (which, of course, there was absolutely no justifiable reason to believe was the case).

Real talk.

Smith knows all of this, which makes his Bill Clinton-esque "depends on what the meaning of 'is,' is" attempts to cloud the issue even worse.

That is, Smith is doing this deliberately. And that's sh*t and will be called out.

That Smith would do this, however, is not a surprise given his history with Pacquiao on the "dirty testing" non-existent email(s). Sad to say, this is par for the course for Smith, at least as regards Pacquiao.

 

Look, you want to be in the same boat with Smith, that's your choice. I'll clown you as surely as I do him. Not a problem. You don't have the facts on your side, and, as such, you can't win.

As the current president of the USA said: Words matter. They particularly matter for a man who makes his living writing words. For you -- just another keyboard jockey -- that might not mean much. For people such as Smith or myself who get paid and judged on what they write and say, it is everything.

As the saying goes, Smith "showed his ass" on the 'dirty email(s)' fiasco and his subsequent ducking of the Clottey-Pac NYC presser. As such, he gets no benefit of the doubt and no tie-breakers.

Just like Shane Mosley, once you've been caught, you have to prove your innocence.

Smith lied about Pacquiao before, and he's lying again. He should steer clear of any statements that can be misconstrued as regards Pacquiao. That is the burden of giving up one's credibility, as Smith has.

 

I'm not trying to rewrite anything.

But Smith is. And that's why he's getting called out, and will continue to get called out, until he tells the truth.

I'm trying to document what actually happened as a Mayweather hagiographer tries to distort reality.

 

Good work. Many on here could benefit from some vocab lessons. Fortunately for me, I'm not among that number. At least any of those presented by someone nmed "ToonToon."

Let's try this again: When you baselessly smear a man's entire body of work by insinuating he is using PED's, or by distorting what went on in a set of negotiations in such a way which could also contribute to the furthering of an unproven narrative about that man's supposed concern about being caught using PED's, that's as far away from a trivial or minute detail as one could get.

That goes to the heart of the matter. Which is why Smith should stop fabricating on this issue. And why I'm calling him out on it.

If this were some unimportant detail like "Manny Pacquiao got his hair cut on Tuesday" and Smith reported it as taking place on Wednesday, I wouldn't care.

But Smith is willingly contributing to a smear with his statements. That is not acceptable, and it will not be tolerated. Not by me, I can assure you of that.

 

Scheduled testing with the advice of a medical expert(s) about when that testing needs to occur to be relevant, and agreeing to such, is the opposite of "not agreeing to testing."

Real talk.

 

Again:

* Pacquiao accepted the random blood testing stipulation that was demanded of him and did so in a time-frame consistent with what Mayweather's own medical expert(s) advised him was acceptable. The contract is merely a vessel for meeting what Mayweather's supposed concerns were, not an end in itself. The contract, as it apparently went against the medical advice of what was required for Pacquiao to be "clean" in a medically satisfactory way, then looks more and more like a cop-out for Mayweather not to take the fight. As in, "hey, it was in the contract Manny wouldn't sign" when the medical parameters Mayweather was supposedly concerned with had been met, per his own medical expert(s).

That is, you're hurting yourself here with what you thought was a good talking point.

* Pacquiao filed a bogus law suit. Wrong. He filed the lawsuit to seek redress from just what Tim Smith is doing, and did, with his "Manny wont do testing" or "dirty emails" smears. This is the legal avenue for seeking such redress, and Manny wisely availed himself of same.

* Pacquiao walked away from the negotiation table -- Not sure if this is true, but if it is true, it is non-relevant as explained above in your meaningless and ill-advised attempt to bring up the supposed contract as a shield for Mayweather's actions or Smith's words:

If a guy tells you that the only thing he cares about is making sure you're clean, and you reach out to meet that demand and meet it to the satisfaction of that guy's medical expert(s) yet the guy decides he knows more than those medical experts or such, how can you negotiate with said person? You did what he asked, and it wasn't enough. You are then forced to conclude your opponent is either not serious in his negotiations or is negotiating in bad faith. There is no point, in such a situation, to continue negotiating.

* Pacquiao signed a fight 3 days later. This is what is known as a specious argument. I'll give you a legal example: Girl X had sex with a guy 3 days after she was raped by Man Y. This "proves" that Man Y didn't **** her.

This is amateur-hour failure of logic.

* Pacquiao fought Clottey in a state with one of the most lax PED testing procedures in the country. -- Again, specious. Pacquiao agreed to the medically reasonable demands, the merit-less ones, of Floyd Mayweather. To the satisfaction of Mayweather's medical expert(s). What he did thereafter is meaningless.

Further, to help illustrate the pointlessness of your attempt, Andre Dirrell faced no PED testing whatsoever, it appears, before or following his defeat of Arthur Abraham. So what? That means nothing as regards Mayweather's supposed concerns about having a "clean" Pacquiao in a potential Mayweather-Pacquiao showdown.

Unless, of course, you're now trying to also say Andre Dirrell could be a PED suspect since he fought in a state with little PED testing.

I hope you get the point here. Smear-mongering doesn't pay, and it makes for pathetic arguments which are refuted or shown to be absurd rather easily.

These are all facts.

Keep trying, you're putting in a valiant effort even if your logic skills aren't top-flight and you have no case. We will tolerate and attempt to correct and inform your attempts as time allows.

However, you are not the culprit here, Victor. Tim Smith is. And as such, I hope you'll pardon me if I decide to expend more effort on what he says than what you say.

You'll still get yours as time permits. But you have to stand in back of Smith and I only have so much time.