Mayweather vs. Pacquiao - Styles

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  1. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    read it wrong..my bad...
     
  2. nipplefloss

    nipplefloss Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Has Pacquiao ever been in with a guy who was even close to being as fast as he is?
     
  3. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    BORED AT WORK..I KNOW WHAT U MEAN..:good
     
  4. Blind Sheikh

    Blind Sheikh Active Member Full Member

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    Dude how many times have experts, talking heads, and yes, even people on messageboards said bull**** like:

    "THERE IS NO WAY THAT FIGHTER A IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO DEAL WITH FIGHTER B's X (jab, footwork, hook, handspeed, strength, etc.)

    ...only to be proven completely wrong?

    F-ing pointless.
     
  5. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd keeps a high guard and a front footed approach to southpaws. He'll look to pick Pacquiao off with lead rights and left hooks.

    He'll give away the first 3-4 rounds to try to adjust. As you said, this may be a bad idea considering Pacquiao doesn't fade or get tired.

    I think Pacquiao will beat him on activity alone. Mayweather is very cagey and doesn't let his hands go very much these days. Against somebody as quick as he is, he's more reluctant to throw.

    Pac just needs to keep the pace high, and keep circling to Mayweather's left. Use the feints when coming inside and rip combinations to the body and head. I think what he did against De La Hoya and Clottey are good blue-prints for how he should deal with Mayweather.

    All Floyd's going to do is try to pepper Pacquiao with straight rights. Pacquiao just needs to keep his activity level high and keep the fight at his range. I could see this as a more competitive, Joshua Clottey - type fight, with Pacquiao winning on accumulation or maybe a TKO.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Too bad you don't have a ****ing clue about styles. Zab gave PBF trouble early because he's a natural counter puncher he picks his shots better than Pac throws a faster one shot with more accurracy and power than Pac has longer arms and has a much better jab. Zab didn't just rush PBF like Pac will do he applied educated pressure behind a jab picking his shots and looking to counter. Learn the sport or log off or I will continue to embarrass people like you.:hi:
     
  7. I actually think Manny has the better, faster, more developed footwork. Not that Floyd's ain't great... I just think Manny's is better.

    Comparing Zab Judah, Demarcus Corley, and Sharmbe Mitchell to Pacquiao just because of the southpaw stance is a moot point. Those 3 guys are nothing like Pacquiao, the stance is the only thing they have in common.

    The big difference in my opinion is WORKRATE. If Mayweather goes in to fight defensively, it will be a more competitive version of Pacquiao vs. Clottey. Mayweather will have a huge problem winning a decision against someone throwing 1200+ punches in the fight, even if only a small percentage of them land.

    Mayweather WILL counter the crap out of Pacquiao with those dynamite straight rights, but barring a KO, will it be enough??
     
  8. Lol we must have been typing this **** at the same time.
     
  9. darryl1914

    darryl1914 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow...you asked for thought and opinions, then you **** on everybody's opinion that doesn't coincide with yours...WOW!!!

    Oh well, so lets take a look at your "wise:rofl" opinions. You say Mayweather has never looked great against Southpaws right??? Well at least he has fought them. Name me one SUPREMELY SKILLED, ATHLETICALLY GIFTED, DEFENSIVE TECHNICIAN WITH PIN-POINT PRECISION ACCURACY that Pacquiao has faced. An Solid counter-puncher in JMM out boxed him...and Now you believe Pacquiao is going to OUT-BOX Mayweather??? Half Dead Cotto was poppin' him and Clottey who only throws 8 punches a round was snapping his head back...when he bothered to throw punches.

    And you say that Mayweather has been advise to avoid Southpaws yet fights them anyway. But Mosley comes to Roach's gym twice and BEGS for a fight TWICE and was refused TWICE. Timothy Bradley, Devon Alexander and Andre Berto all have PUBLICLY said they want to fight Pacquiao...(Bradley in an Interview with ESPN's Dan Rafeal, Alexander with Sky Sports and Andre Berto quoted in Miami Newspaper and then subsquent radio interview. And neither one of these fighters are requiring a DRUG-TEST!!!!

    But Arum release his "wish-list" of fighters for Pacquiao includes Humberto Soto, Margarito and Cotto..Again. Neither one of these fighters possess the speed and athleticism of the previously mentioned fighters. So while you say Mayweather has been advise to stay away from Southpaws...It seems Pacquiao has been advise to stay away from a certain "KIND OF FIGHTER???"

    You shouldv'e change the title of this thread to: "THE PLEASE AGREE WITH ME THREAD". Because its's obvious you only want to hear other people say that Pacquiao would Drop, KO and then OUT-BOX Floyd:-(.
     
  10. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    For the keys to the fight are

    How will manny react to being in with a fighter that is able to match him for handspeed. Will he be able to leap in with his slashing machine gun like combinations as easily as he has been able to do so in the past against a counter puncher as good as mayweather, espicially one with the reach advantage he has. His output and work-rate seemed to drop off a little against marquez because he was taking so many counterpunches, will the same happen against mayweather and he begins to get nervous and therefore lose one of his major weapons, his workrate. Also even in the clottey fight pac seemed to take a lot of straight right hands, mayweather got the best in the business, how is he going to neutralize it somewhat.

    As for mayweather how is he going to deal with the southpaw stance, a fighter that can match his footspeed and handspeed, one without the mental weakness of judah and has the ability to adapt. Also in the clottey fight manny was body punching in a way he never has before, roach's influence no doubt, i think this is roach plan to try and break mayweather defence down slightly. Castillo troubled him a lot this way, can manny do the same. Can floyd defence be as rock solid against pacquaio use of angles as it normally is?


    Both has certain stylistic advantages and disadvantages for me. Both bring things to the table the other will not have seen. Thats why its a must happen fight for me
     
  11. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    footwork..go read about how important it is in "making it ur tempo of a fight"...

    All that is nice but again..manny dont have the better footwork..u can talk all that speed n power n this n that...but bottom line is manny will be "forced" into a boxing match..he dont have the footwork to make this a fight..

    I respect your opinion....just dont see the fight playing out "technically"like what your saying at all really..

    Dont expect u to understand what im saying but maybe after the fight gets goin youll understand..
     
  12. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Hell no he hasn't. He's never faced anyone with as fast hands or as fast feet as he has. This is especially dangerous for him because he will be in with a technician a technician with just as fast as hands and feet as him who will make him pay for the mistakes he was able to get away with because of his athleticism. It can't really be said any other way PBF is a stylistic hell for Manny and his day in the sun is about to be over.:deal
     
  13. OH KILL SHOT. :-(

    I think you are getting Pacquiao mixed up with Ricky Hatton. Pacquiao doesn't just rush people, he uses a jab too. He also likes to jump in with 1-2s or just straight lefts. He also likes to counter by using crazy angles, both with footwork and the actual angle the punches come from. He also likes to punch in volume and combinations.

    Zab got tired and frustrated in that fight... its not a valid comparison though, on that we can agree.
     
  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Pac will not throw 1200 + punches against PBF. I don't know how much more I can stress this point.:patsch You really need to study the sport and realize that PBF makes your workrate and connect % drop. He's not an easy target to hit and he counters you with clean shots making you very weary about opening up. If he can make a iron chinned warrior like Shane weary of opening up he will do the same to Pac.:deal
     
  15. darryl1914

    darryl1914 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I wish I had known that before giving this Mutha'fuka' any of my time to post in here. For him to say that Pacquiao will OUT-BOX Mayweather is just ABSURD!!!!