Wladimir Klitschko vs. David Haye - Sept or Nov - Germany

Well for starters the IBO title means absolutely **** all, and I wish Wlad would stop flaunting it around as if it does.

As for the WBO, it may be a credible belt, but at HW it is a paper rag, never been worth anything. Not to say that Wlad isn't the champion of course, but those belts he holds have almost zero prestige at HW, including the WBO; just look at the list of non-champions that have held it.

 

My point being I guess, that if a fighter unifies WBC-WBA-IBF at HW, then he is undisputed champion. The WBO has never mattered before at the weight, and has zero prestige or credibility.

 

I gave Haye a 20% chance after the Chambers fight. If I was feeling generous I might up it to 33%. Either way, it would be a pretty exceptional accomplishment if he managed it.

I don't think Wlad's among the greatest heavyweights ever, but he's an incredibly solid all-round fighter with a world-class jab and size on his side, which will automatically give him an advantage against anyone smaller than him as the jab keeps smaller opponents at a range where they can't do any damage and trying to get inside becomes increasingly painful.

Haye's got the power to smash that jaw, but whether he has the nerve or the technique to get close enough is an open question. I think his best bet might be to go for him early. Play the first one or two rounds cautiously and then do a U-turn and come out blazing, hoping to catch Wlad unawares. Easier said than done, though.

 

As long as Wladdy don't cheat you won't have nothing to worry about. This is England.... land of the fair, you won't away with any of that leaning in holding every time a smaller opponent gets close over here you know. :deal

 

**** the IBO who cares bout that that aint a real world title.

 

Exactly.

 

Dress it up any way you want, but everyone knows Wlad is no. 1 at heavy at the moment. Two wins over long in the tooth slobs don't make put Haye above him. Hope this fight gets made, it's a long time wince we've had a HW fight to get excited about. The vulnerability and power of both men makes it intruiging but I do think Wlad will have too much for him.

 

Two long in the tooth slobs Wladdy avoided. :deal

 

Typical **** of the Haye nuthuggers. Noone gives a **** about the WBA history, because it's the most corrupt sanctioning body right now. And yes, the recognized champion of the division is Wlad, I know it hurts your sissy ass but that's the truth. Wlad = WBO, IBF and RING magazine champion, trying to say that Haye's WBA trinket is more significant only exposes you as an idiot and a nuthugger.

 

So Haye was never undisputed CW champion, right? :hey

 

"Haye" a completely non-biased and rational opinion will come from you. The WBO belt is credible...b-b-b-but not at heavyweight. Right. Riddick Bowe apparently didn't know while he was champ.

Pre-Haye post-Lewis champs include two reigns by Ruiz and two reigns by Valuev. Is that really particularly dissimilar to the likes of Briggs and Ibragimov who owned the WBO title during that time? I don't think so.

 

But awesome. :deal

Wlad reestablished the linear championship by beating Chagaev. He unified three of the 4 major belts with this fight since Chagaev was the true WBA champ. But I know you Haye fanboys won´t recognize it. But then nobody cares about your oppinions.

 

The kliits time is up

 

Sure, in 2 or 3 years when they both retire :deal

 

Did you see all the wrestling in Tzyu - Hatton ? Froch- Dirrell ?
Did you see the first round of Haye - Ruiz.. Haye tees off on a rabbit punch while ruiz is stuck defenseless in the ropes and them actually giving him a ten count? as well as counting it as a knockdown and not giving him time to recover... Thats not even talking about all the other rabbitt punches throughout the fight that would even Make Sam Peter proud :deal

Bad decisions happen everywhere not just in Germany hell look at last year in Canada as well as Texas there were some dooseys,... And what about that decision Tyson Fury got last year in the UK?
And like Scar brought up before right now it looks like they would let the home fighter strait up do some WWE **** in the UK right now.... So should german and U.S fighters say the same thing about the U.K? its just a load of ****, Wlad is the bigger draw and the true champ and probably like last time is paying all the expenses for the fight, If it happens... So tough **** its in germany... I'd like to see it in the U.K. But it doesnt look like its in the cards.. Maybe if Haye wins they can rematch there.
Besides Haye had the chance to fight Wladamir at Chelsea staduim and he rufused to put his own money down to secure the stadium last spring so you should look no further then him for fault it didnt already happen in the U.K.