34,35,36,38 - Floyd an All Time Welter Great ?

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  1. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    All this talk about Mayweather as an all time great at welter is absurd. Has anyone taken the time to review his opposition ? When he fought them:

    Oscar 34
    Bal 35
    Marquez 36
    Mosley 38

    and jr. welter Hatton .....

    How is Mayweather an all time great welter ?
     
  2. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    He's not an all time great welterweight, i think people are speculating whether or not he could compete with welters from yesteryear, not whether he has compiled a resume to be ranked highly in the division with regards to legacy. Of course he doesn't rank high at 147 pounds historically. I doubt he'd beat any of the top level greats there either.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    The De La Hoya fight was at 154.
     
  4. Blood Green

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    It looks better if you post their pfp rankings and titles at the time when they fought. (Oscar was still really good with no belt or pfp ranking.)
     
  5. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    He was light middleweight champ, actually.
     
  6. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    These days 35 is the new 32. I suppose if Pacquaio agrees to Olympic style drug testing, Mayweather will final get his due. Until then he is un-defeated, and the #1 or #2 pound for pound fighter in boxing.
     
  7. jyuza

    jyuza Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Say that to Morales or Vargas.
     
  8. Rise Above

    Rise Above IBHOF elector Full Member

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    He is an all time great but not at 147.
     
  9. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Lesson one in becoming underrated: Fight Floyd Mayweather Jr.
    Lesson one in becoming overrated: Don't fight Floyd Mayweather Jr.
     
  10. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Every generation has fighters that get burnt out early for various reasons.......Morales through his ring wars and the many times he had to severely dehydrate to make weight.......

    .....and Vargas through one brutal beatdown at the hands of one Felix "Tito" Trinidad, in which Vargas was never the same.


    Fighters like Pipino Cuevas and Wilfredo Benitez were washed up before they hit 30.
     
  11. TBomb 25

    TBomb 25 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's a HOFer not a ATG,and he never will be.
     
  12. TBomb 25

    TBomb 25 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Vargas was really rushed into that fight with Tito and he was soundly taking Tito apart in brutal fashion before all the low blows and cheating,those shots to the nuts permently took Vargas's legs from him.Benitez was a champion at 16 and fought great against other legends for over a decade.I cant argue with you about Morales,and Papino nearly got killed by "The Hit Man" all these great fighters you mentioned had justifiable reason for being burnt out.