Suppose Pac is on Roids...

People are idiots that think it matters THAT MUCH! You have no idea what steroids are/ do, and how they effect people.
Think about something for a second. For instance they say if you can bench your own body weight that's good for a lot of people. So, using that as an example SIZE DOES MATTER! Say you weigh 150, and you manage to bench 160. There is no way your going to be benching 260, and still be at the same weight. You body grows, your muscles grow, you gain weight, etc so your able to do it. There's a process!
Steroids help you to grow faster. They give your muscles a quicker recovery rate, they make you HUNGRY (thus the more you eat/ heal, the BIGGER you get), etc.

So, the recovery rate could potentially help a boxer, but that's it. Steroids is about getting bigger fast, and in the case of boxers...You can only get to a certain weight. Also, even if you look at the recovery rate, how much could you possibly train for boxing without over-training? Even on steroids I'm sure there'd be such a thing as over-training. It isn't all about how well your body holds up, but how well your mind holds up as well.
So, all in all...If I were a great pro boxer going to fight another great pro boxer...I could give a **** less if he was juicing. He's my weight, he's my size, I'd kick his ass. Same way with anybody on the street (even those bigger than me) I bet if I hit them a few good times they will feel it, eventually have some bruises, cuts, possible broken bones, etc. He's made of flesh and bone just like I am, and I'd prove that to anybody if forced to.

 

Peds will make a fighter stronger, quicker, recover quicker, more explosive, increase power, and improve endurence. Proformence enhancing drug enhance a boxer's proformence. To answer your question PBF would still win a UD. Us greedy boxing fans are only concerned w/ seeing this mega fight asap, however there is a bigger picture here. If we turn the blind eye and allow boxers to juice there are many negetive outcomes. For 1 if pro boxer use ped's then amatuers will do the same, then aspiring boxers copy, then teens. This is the problem here, we need to set an example to protect our youth from ruining their body's before they know better. Kids look up to boxers and copy them as close as possible. It's not even bout pbf vs. pac anymore, it's bigger than that.

 

Yeah, even people on steroids can maintain there bodies once they cycle off/ still grow. On steroids you may look a little bloated due to water weight, but besides that water weight....If you took steroids for a while, then cycled off as long as you lift you'd keep your size, and strength. Once you got something, and maintain it, it's hard to lose. The only thing that changes that is Father time, or a set back (injury or something to stop you).

 

You are the idiot here. There are many types of steriods. Sure bodybuilders use the testostorone based stuff that makes u grow. However there are roids to increase your breathing capacity w/o increase muscle size. It is widely know cycling is a highly doped sport, those dudes are skinny as **** and would never want to increase there overall bodyweight. Don't try to sound like an expert when you obviouslly don't know what your talking bout.

 

Please. Steroids aren't going to make more of a difference to your punching power than say...Tecnique. Besides, even on steroids you STILL HAVE TO WORKOUT! What's to say the difference between Pac running 10 miles a day as opposed to a PED Pac that runs 10 miles a day? Same endurance, same workout. It's not like Pac increased 150 pds on his bench, or something, or gained 50 pounds. There's nothing that implies guilt in these cases.
As for young people give me a break! Not that many young kids really watch boxing (a lot watch basketball, football, baseball, or UFC). Plus, they do take drug tests, and until they test positive it's not a bad image to kids. THEY DID NOT TEST POSITIVES! They took there tests, passed them. How many 8 year olds are really upset that Manny didn't take Floyd's random drug tests?... Except the Mayweather children gang...The same ones who are named "MONEY" (yeah...Not a bad nickname for 5 year olds)? None.

 

C'mon now. Your the one who's talking about sending messages to kids yet you mention boxing, and nothing about the message somebody like Floyd sends to young kids during his rediculous interviews..
Besides, even increasing your breathing capacity...So what really? If somebody is better it isn't going to matter. Your just going to have more air while you get your ass beat. Just like somebody having more muscle while they get there ass beat.
Do you *honestly* think it matters that much????? Plus, it'd be different if he actually failed a drug test in the past, and there seemed to be a reason to test him.

 

True they don't make all the difference in the world. However if 2 fighter are evenly matched ped's will give the slight edge to outlast your opponet. It not like i'm saying they'll make martha steward KTFO david haye, but if 2 WW are in a close battle they may give a edge to the roid user. How many fights have you seen that a fighter wins by the skin of his teeth.

 

He just wants an even playing field. Nothing wrong with that. Amazing how that's become vilified.

 

Ok, very true $ may is a shitty role model. That is not the point. My thought are not directed to loving PBF or hating Manny. My point is this problem is bigger then just this one fight. Olympic style testing in every fight is a great idea, it's just unfortunate a conserverial boxer like PBF can up w/ the idea. What if pacman came up w/ the idea to clean up boxing and implement testing.......would u still be so spectical???

 

Floyd beats Pacquiao with or without performance enhancers. That isn't an argument in support of avoiding drug testing, though.

 

So the fact that pac keeps going up weight and knocking these guys out, is not the least bit suspicious to you? and you talk about credit like Mayweather ever gets credit for what he does...... i wonder what the excuses are going to be when MAY beats PAC ,Im pretty sure you guys will find something....... "fans need bad guys so they can point there f@&*ing fingers and say THATS THE BAD GUY"....lol

 

I like the original thread title better.

Floyd Sr., Paula, Kermit, Nate, Oscar.... the Gossip Girls.

 

really? cool

 

Problem is that Void, Jr. and Void, Sr. believe that Pac will knock his arse out! Void, Sr. let the cat out of the bag. Void ran and is still running.

Pac refuses to throw that fight.

 

DLH beat two roided up guys... Vargas and Mosley (he won that second fight, no disrespect to mosley)