i don't have to see the contract. haye made it known what they offered to the public, and the klitschko's never denied it, so that alone speaks volumes. haye is now a PPV fighter in england that would probably do one million sales fighting either klitschko, because the media in england have took a real liking to haye. do i need to say anymore. the offer now has to be alot better than before for those reasons alone. the situation has changed.
You only believe what you want to believe. Toney has repeatedly said that the Klitschkos are ducking him, and the Klitschkos never denied it, therefore the Klitschkos are ducking Toney, according to your logic :nut
I don't think in this situation Wlad would make an offer and say take it or leave it. It would be a matter of Wlad's and Haye's handlers meeting at the table and hammering out a 50/50 split of the available revenues. Haye's team can take direct influence on the deal. You make it sound like they're all passive and just gotta wait for what Wlad's guys put on the table and then if it's not good enough reply "YES" or "NO". If Haye has a single iota of interest in the fight he and his team can help to make it reality right now though constructive cooperation.
What is it with this place and people talking like it is gospel even before all the facts are in? I'm sure a lot people on this site are taxi drivers. They insist on having an opinion on everything even if they know **** all about it. Haye pulled out of two fights with the Klits and gave his reasons. His reasons could be legit or they could be bull**** but we won't really know that for a little while yet until the results of the negotiations are made public. So can't people just reserve judgment until then? I understand we all may have thoughts on what may happen but to come out and say "Haye will definitely duck the Klits" is disrespectful to a guy who up until this Klit debacle has always sort out the toughest challengers. Anyway didn't Chef (who if i remember rightly is part of Wlads camp) say that we should know by next week if the fight is on or of? Lets wait until then to pass judgment on Haye.
I would guess end of this week. The IBF deadline for Wlad was Sunday, the 16th. The IBF expects to hear back from Wlad until then for his report if his negotiations with Haye were successful. If he becomes back with nothing they will enforce Wlad - Povetkin as his next bout and Haye will fight God knows what over-the-hill bum. Hope all the Brits are happy as hell when we hear the fight is off because it certainly sounds like that's what these guys are hoping! Incredible. I thought boxing fans would be undivided when it comes to hoping for the biggest possible fights to happen.
David Haye has fought no-one at heavyweight. He fought a "joke" and ran from him. Either Klit will have him out in 2. Taking on a shot Ruiz was an appalling move. What next? Ali?
why wait? some of us already know the truth - haye is a big coward and will not fight Wladimir because he don't want to end up destroyed and irrelevant like Brock, Austin, Thompson, Byrd, Castillo and Peter.
What is gold is the fact that because you hate Haye you will take the word of a faceless on screen name who claims he trained with Haye because his view fits with your own. If another, new poster started a thread saying Haye was the nicest guy he had ever trained with and that Haye helped him out in the gym constantly, would you accept it or just treat it with a pinch of salt? This guy might well have trained with Haye or he might just be a hater trying to stir things up. I don't care either way, but new posters starting negative threads on fighters is not new here and will be met with scepticism a lot of the time. You decide this post is genuinely from someone who trained with him, because it says negative things and you have an almost fanatical obsession with hating Haye.
Nah, that question had already occurred to me. It didn't occur to a whole lot of Haye's Gays who went running to defend their loverboy's honour. How few of them picked up on that - against how many who just went bezerk? (and why would I point that out to them?) Haye's Gays, an army of assclowns to make any ******* or ***** look tame. :rofl
I find an obsession with a fighter either way to be ridiculous. Pacman is amazing, but so is PBF. I like watching both men fight as they are both ATG already in my opinion. The maniacs on either side who seem to think that being a fan of one means you have to deride another are idiots. But your hatred of Haye is as delusional as the fanatical fans of his who think he will demolish both Klits. You routinely call someone who has taken gambles in his whole pro career and who has already achieved a huge amount in just 25 fights a "coward" and numerous other, banal and inaccurate insults. I'm a fan of Haye. I still think he loses to Wlad or Vitali and beats the rest of the heavyweight division. Following a fighter and being objective about them should not be impossible.
Whilst Hayes HW resume is less than steller i think you are being a bit harsh on him. I take it by the "joke" you mean Valuev? Haye hurt his hand in that fight so it is understandable why he fought the way he did. I know the fight was an anticlimax but at least Haye got the job done, which given the circumstances (hurt hand) is all you can really ask of him. As for Ruiz, Haye had to fight him.
Sick of Hayes crap? Well, hand in your resignation as his cleaner then. If he cant sit on the toilet correctly then he must find someone else.
And how do you know this for sure? Are you the guy who claimed earlier to have some inside knowledge of the negotiations? What is this inside knowledge?