You're forgetting that he beat prime Alexis Arguello...who's best division was 140lbs. Oh and the rematch pretty much concludes that the Black Bottle was just a conspiracy theory conjured up by the HBO camera crew.
PowerPuncher is in the top 10 ESB classic posters, maybe top 5. You are one of the worst, most biassed and full of sugar coated ****
Uh...No, I don't think I forgot that. As a matter of fact, just for some of these posts, I think I'm going to bum him down to 250 out of spite. Edit: ...Hopefully that's not a Freudian slip. I meant BUMP not bum.
Oh and also i'd have him in the top 30 P4P, once again basing my opinion on visual evidence, i don't think anyone can be clearly favoured at 140 against him. Whitaker and Chavez included(who i also would have top 30)
I usually agree with some things you have to say regarding bias towards older fighters, but Pryor has no business being anywhere close to top 30. Doesn't have the resume, doesn't have the longevity.
This. I have him creeping into the 95-100 range based on ability. The Cervantes/2 Arguello wins are decent rather than great though, despite the sheer intensity/excitement levels of the fights.
lol 2nd time today, this wasn't a stab at bias towards older fighters. I know it sounded pretty smug now reading it back, but all it is, i make sure to state what i base things on before people come in and assume i rank how they do. I do look up on fighters i'm not too familiar with that are mentioned here. Canzoneri for one, i will say i had low expectations for, but he is absolute magic.
Well its all a matter of taste really. I like myself around the 3rd-5th mark. burt beinstock has to rank above me because he tooled me yesterday. MAG125 is up there, he knows the true colours of Duran by myself, and can argue it with endless walls of text, in every single post. PowerPuncher, PetethePrince and anarci tell it like it is and know alot of ****, but PowerPuncher and anarci lose marks on bias gang ties, Black Panthers and Mexican Mafia respectively. Mcgrain, Stonehands and janitor know their **** and put it across without sounding like the rest of you smug sheep, but their hardons for 20's jazz music hurt their stock. However theyre too good for me to clown with. Addie is a good poster, but he's torn between wanting to be cool and associated with me, and wanting to be a member of the ESB gentleman's club, which makes him indecisive. Fleaman tries too hard. Bohdi is the Bernard Hopkins of ESB, an overrated racist who thinks he's old school. As for you WhatARock, you're a poor man's McGrain, a B level janitor. Which makes you technically sound but lacking in substance, and there are so many of you that fit this discription. ESB Classic Top 10 posters P4P: 1) burt bienstock 2) Mag125 3) Pachilles 4) janitor 5) PeteThePrince 6) PowerPuncher 7) Stonehands 8) McGrain 9) ripcity 10) anarci
They do look good don't get me wrong, but seeing these names being picked over the more modern greats, i am dissappointed to that extent: Pep, Ross, B Leonard, Armstrong. Fighters who look like **** would be, Dempsey, Tunney, Langford, Jeffries, Johnson
Actually I truly agree with you there Pach...I am a poor man's McGrain and a b-level janitor. I think you hit the nail on the head. But Im off to neck myself for not making the 10.