who is the best p4p ever

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  1. tonyteb

    tonyteb Active Member Full Member

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    thank you
     
  2. tonyteb

    tonyteb Active Member Full Member

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    stupidest thing you ever heard huh so out of the 200 fights besides the ones he names who were the other 190
     
  3. tonyteb

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    first off i think i was being misunderstood.2nd ray is not imortal. I didnt say he did not fight great fighters what i was saying,is out of the 200,how many true counter punchers did he

    face people give the same bacic 10 or 15 people he fought. My point was what about the other 190 or so he fought alot of bums be honest you people act like he fought 200 all time greats or something and in terms of p4p name one person he fought that roy jones wouldnt destroy. Im not disrespecting ray it was just my opinon.
     
  4. tonyteb

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    my point exactly this guys a stiff get real i dont wanna hear people critisizing jones no more after that clip
     
  5. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfkXMFUuWm8[/ame]


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o0c8fXHp-4[/ame]


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sq6MQ2kYLu8[/ame]


    :good
     
  6. tonyteb

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    wow a left right combo that hasent been seen before
     
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    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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  9. tonyteb

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    WHY ROY JONES, JR?

    KD --
    Some of the questions put forward by the CBZ scholars come to mind at this point.They’ve sent them to me by e-mail and I’ve printed them out and have them here. May I run a few by you?

    HG -- Well, I’ll see what I can do, sure.

    KD -- A couple of years ago you published your own greatest pound-for-pound list in International Boxing digest. You had Roy Jones Jr. at the top of your list. You’ve received much criticism from historians and others—typically older folks—What about Jones’ abilities and accomplishments prompted you to make such a bold statement? And how do you compare greatness in boxers? And would you still put Jones up at the top?

    HG -- OK. My ranking of Jones in such a dramatic fashion, had to do not with his accomplishments but simply with his skills. He has more and greater skills than any fighter I’ve ever seen in my life. The way he can hook and go immediately to a straight punch, the way he can fire shots from all angles, his domination of every opponent he faces. I’ve never seen a comparable fighter in my life. I went out on a limb in making that pronouncement at that time. I don’t think I was that overboard. Now it’s true that Mr. Jones’ accomplishments in terms of being in great fights, in terms of being a super-star of his period do not begin to equal his skills. That’s the down side. Of course to make great fights it takes two to tango and Mr. Jones is so far above his competition that there are no great fights out there for him, certainly within his own weight classes. Now in terms of looking at the careers of certain fighters, certainly there are a number of men who outshone him in that respect. But I still maintain that Mr. Jones is the most skilfull, is the most over-powering man, pound-for-pound, in the history of boxing. I don’t think even Sugar Ray Robinson was as dominant over his opposition as Roy Jones has been. That takes nothing away from Sugar Ray. But I have never seen a phenomenon like Roy Jones. Of course Roy Jones knows it, too. He knows what he wants, what he doesn’t want. He’s a star. He won’t fight here. He will fight only here. He’s his own promoter, more or less. So he’s certainly not everyones’ ideal of what a fighter should be. But in terms of skills I think he’s the greatest.
     
  10. tonyteb

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    thank you
     
  11. Jorodz

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    :lol: i'm the one who got crucified on the classic for putting jones at #10 all time (and i still fought/fight for that decision) but it's sugar ray robinson we're talking about here. you need to watch his fights. you've seen jones obviously but what robinson fights have you studied? i love rjj as much as almost any fighter i've ever seen but i still respect the **** out of robinson and overall, he was a more complete fighter
     
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  13. janitor

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    To give the record some context Robinson fought 40+ opponents who were currently ranked in the top 10 by Ring Magazine.

    You would be hard put to find a fighter from Jonses era with half that number.

    We will likley never see another fighter like Robinson because you would never be able to contract that number of top fights today.
     
  14. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Jones couldn´t carry Robinson´s jockstrap.

    ´nuff said!
     
  15. Jorodz

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    i wouldn't go that far...:hat