You MMA fans seriously think they go toe to toe with boxers?

Ah, sounds like you're at a mix gym. This was just one where there were two completely different guys, one running the boxing (for the whole state, really) and the other was my Muay Thai instructor. I did my BJJ training elsewhere. And I'd come in to do my time and they'd be in there, in our room, doing sit-ups, push-ups, and warming up and it's simply unbelievable. They really wouldn't shut up. If you thought you've heard condescending....looool, these guys took the cake.

Fortunately, I don't have to deal with that nonsense now, nor does anyone else I trained with there. New gym, new rules, better structure and more like what you're talking about. Definately the best way to go at it.

 

:thumbsup Good stuff James - better to be happy in a new gym than putting up with negativity.

 

Indeed, sir. Luckily we've got some good guys that know a bit about boxing where I'm at now. Nobody famous or anything just some local guys who know the game well. They've adapted some of the techniques for MMA, which is hugely helpful, because what they used to have to do is learn pure boxing technique and then tweak it. So, yeah, glad you're also in a good gym.

 

Let alone the obvious fact that a good wrestler would take a boxer down with ease.... There are plenty of MMA fighters who would outstrike boxers as well. People who actually know how to kick legs, body, head, knees, clinch, elbows, ect.... Muay Thai guys, and kickboxers are much more well rounded strikers for MMA.

 

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well they also say quinton jackson hits as hard as a car hitting u a 20mph in a compacted space, tru fact, did u not see when they tested it?

 

name a better sprawl? Sure he can wreslter? But a sprawl is what stops a take down.

 

i feel ya on the size thing if they are to small, im 6'5 225 and i wana stand an bang hey its more fun but if u have zero ground skill, but are really strong how don u get out of a submission that takes milliseconds to break bones and an make u go to sleep where how strong u are doesnt matter, i won a match by putting a nose lock on a guy once when i was young his nosed was shatterd, now how do u work out your nose, and my bjj coach is 160 an if he got my back an sank his hooks in i'd be asleep in seconds, strenght means nada when your brain has no blood

 

haha come to the cage just once, ive been in the ring alot not near as demanding

 

http://www.blitzmag.net/training/bjj-mma/129-the-hunter

"BLITZ MAGAZINE: At that time, the general public (who had not seen Gracie tear through the opposition in the UFC) was still very uneducated about grappling. I hear that a former boxer actually challenged you while you were in a gym having BJJ sessions?

ADRIAN PANG: No, it was in a boxing gym, sparring some teammates at Brendale, when I was challenged. This guy just jumped straight in the ring and put on a pair of MMA gloves, grinning ear to ear. He was laughing at the thought of all the damage he was going to do with those little gloves on. Cutting a long story short, minutes later he was slammed to the floor and his arm was hyper extended to a sickening degree. Next day I got in trouble by the gym owner for breaking the new boxing coach Spike Cheney's arm. I was unaware of how good a boxer he was and that he was the last Aussie boxer to win a medal at the Olympics! We became good friends after that and had a mutual respect for each other. Had a few good challenges in that gym."
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wow this site is amazing huh? U seem like one of the few real figters on it. They r to weak an undisciplind to learn more than one style, i think these kids think a submission take an hour or sumthn haha, n e boxer would eventually give up his back(very bad) or hopefully one of the pricks will just leave an arm hangin out haha, u cant sweat the uneducated, keep your hands up and chin down,vinnie

 

hey there are alot of guys at 220 and sum at 205 and smaller that could beat tyson(on the ground that is of course)and submissions arent all about strength to get out of, there is no defense, besides duckin your chin for a rear naked choked but the u get a ridge hand and a jaw lock, which a broken jaw suck , an mma fighter dont do to many high leg kicks its after a set up, but low kicks are suppose to wear you down an get you flat footed an take away your power an get you reaching an off balance, i've traind many styles for 17 years, now tell me whats i difference in blocking or lets say defense in boxing and kickboxing? Kicboxing you bend at the knees an boxing at the waist , so what happens when u bend at the waist against sum1 who can use there legs, you got a knee to the face,

 

codeman u r by far right isnt one of the best kickboxers in the entire world kit cope, and look what happend to him i think in his first fight he was submitted in the first round his first fight, u gota be well rounded boxers are not they would tap out an get scared of passing out because they are not used to the pain in sensation, u have to learn to deal with those pain thresholds

 

maybe all of you only "PURE" boxers are hard to knock out, because u damn head is to thick to understand MMA, who do you think my boxing coach is a ****ing hotdog vendor off the street. NO A PROFESSIONAL BOXER. AND MY KICKBOXING COACH AND BJJ. i mean do u think we just pick random people an say come train me. NO! and all u "PURE" boxers that think that strength will mostly over power submissions makes me laugh. i mean sure some like an arm bar u may be able to pick him up an slam him,but do u know how to roll out of one doubt it. but alot of strength doesnt matter at all and if u dont study it, you would have no idea what to look for or when one was coming, you most likely would set your self up . or would try to push off are chest to get a clean punch to the face, but now you left an arm exposed an i will roll my hips an break it off. say an mma fighter knocked u on your back, now how would u get up hmmm let me guess do sumthn dumb an give up your back an get choked out. in the ring sure a boxer has the advantage but anywhere else mma we have more tools. an why do people keep sayin put mike tyson against a crappy mma fighter,u guys dont respect what we do how bout mike tyson an arlovski 6'4 240 sambo expert moves like a lightheavy weight, kinda has a weak jaw but it really wouldnt matter or n e top heavy weight, **** how bout quinton jackson and hes only 205, they did a study that said he puched as hard as a car goin 20 or 30 mph in a compacted area true story. if u dont have respect for mma go to your local gym for a week i bet girls would submit u, know i know they would. try it just one week. and the reason i keep saying "pure" is why would u only wana know one style, i love boxing and just fighting, an u keep talkn **** about our gloves i cant count how many times my hands have been broken after a fight but we keep going. normal mma fight is 3 rounds non championship, well one of the best boxing slugfest only went 3 rounds Hagler-Hearns,so r u sayin hagler or hearns has a weak jaw, didnt think so. i mean thats ridiculous to think all boxers have better jaws

 

But think about it...

If you can't really fight, what do you do? You wrestle.

Why would someone wrestle? Cuz they scared to get hit. It's that simple.

I've been there too. I was gettin whupped in a boxing ring once because I was new and all I could think of doin was grabbin on.

Real warriors fight with their hands cuz they ain't scared to get hit.

But I do agree, if I can't fight, I'll try and grab. But deep down, even I know that it's a ***** move.

No dignity in it.