Pacquiao has had everything his own way up until now...

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  1. Gunns4hire

    Gunns4hire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    great mr. neutral but like always your missing the point.....those are three different floyd mayweathers in three different fights...

    pac has fought the same fight every time because he has fought the same style of fighters every time....fighters that move in straight lines with little to no defense
     
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    Gunns4hire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :good And the only reason why hatton was in the fight was because he clinched and punched in the clinch and on the break a lot...

    manny doesn't clinch...the moment hatton started getting tired and couldn't clinch any longer the fight got lop sided.....
     
  3. s23041983

    s23041983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    ok then... ill counter with this...

    de la hoya was a weight-drained old man

    clottey wasnt active enough to prove a threat

    pac got beat by prime morales but then beat an off-prime morales

    everyone knows how marquez should have got the decision in their 2nd fight

    pac beat berrera convincingly, so why fight him again when hes past his best?

    cotto, hatton and diaz where far far FAR too easy to hit... tailor made if you will!!!
     
  4. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    It's funny because I actually am neutral. I'm not a particularly big fan of Manny Pacquiao, but I think it would be criminal for people to pretend like Floyd and Manny are neck and neck. They aren't, not at this point anyhow.

    I know what point you are making Gunns4hire, and I also know that you have a raging hard-on for Floyd Mayweather. It's true, Manny Pacquiao hasn't fought a Floyd Mayweather, but it goes hand in hand. Floyd dominated Mosley the other night, but Pacquiao is going to be a firestorm in comparison. How does Floyd with that? When has he ever had to deal with a fighter with Manny's attributes? Please don't bring up Zab Judah...he's non-comparable.

    The result of the proposed fight is anybody's guess, it's going to be intriguing, but just as Manny had never had to deal with someone like Floyd, Floyd has never had to deal with anyone remotely as good as Pacquiao.
     
  5. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    you think mayweather will potshot? that wont work against pacquiao. hes too fast. mayweather's jab and overhand right are his biggest assets against pac but he still needs to time pac, which will take a few rounds. you can underestimate how akward pac is and the angkes he throws his punches. its going to take mayweather longer to adjust to pacquiao, then any other fighter he has fought to date.
     
  6. Leon

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    Lol at people who think pac's stamina and his 6040548 punchers per fight will matter once he's getting the **** countered out of him. All that won't come to play if Floyd hits him enough. Don't give that Floyd has no power bull**** either. $ was able to make Mosley, who has a better chin than emmanuel, reluctant to try him out of the fear of getting hurt and KTFO. Mayweather was also able to use his C game to mentally break down and discourage Marquez, who has the same amount of heart pac does. Remember the guy who gave pac hell twice?
     
  7. s23041983

    s23041983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i have told you twice now how floyd will deal with it, but you either dont get it or you simply dont wanna accept it. try telling us how you think pacquiao will deal with floyds constant moving out of range?
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Agreed. :good

    Joshua held significant physical advantages, I prefer to credit Manny for overcoming them.

    Erik wasn't prime in 2005.

    About as close as a fight can possibly get, no more controversial than Floyd/Castillo I.

    ...Because Barrera wanted redemption, and he was coming off a competitive fight with Juan Manuel Marquez. This win trumps anything on Floyd's record.

    The Cotto and Hatton victories are spectacular. Icing Hatton at his best weight coming off one of his best career performances, and Cotto showed in the fight that he wasn't shot like some had suggested. Manny, former Flyweight, moving up to 147lbs and man handling Cotto.
     
  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    It wasn't a question for you to answer, S2304. The point is that nobody knows how he'll deal with it because he's never had to fight someone with Manny Pacquiao's abilities before. Everything else is purely speculation and as a dude with a huge aching hard on for Floyd Mayweather, it's in your interest to give Floyd the benefit of the doubt. I get it, and I understand it.
     
  10. Gunns4hire

    Gunns4hire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    thats not saying that hatton is as good as pac

    but there styles are similar....both can be over aggressive....

    like it or not hatton had good footwork and speed...

    both lack defense..

    both look like train wrecks after every fight....

    pac is way faster....

    pac has more power

    pac bounces in and out head hunting

    hatton bounces in and out going to the body more and clinches more
     
  11. s23041983

    s23041983 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    think about this... floyd needs to time pac in order to counter him right?... well if floyd just stays ever so slightly out of range, then it completely turns the tables and then its pac who has to time floyd... this is what floyd does. he makes the opponent bend to his will.
     
  12. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    :verysad Pacquiao is on a different planet to Ricky Hatton.
     
  13. Gunns4hire

    Gunns4hire Well-Known Member Full Member

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    inititally i think he will pot shot and tie up pac.....to frustrate him...

    when pac gets hit with good shots he likes to respond with flurries....

    i think eventually the pot shots wont be necessary...
     
  14. Silver

    Silver The Champ is Here Full Member

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    if you notice, in more then a few mayweather fights, he starts slow. you saw this with mosley and wioth judah. now why is that? both judahd and mosley have more speed then any other mayweather opponent. it took him time to adjust to their speed. what makes mayweather so great is not that hes fast, alot of fighters are fast, but he is great at timing his opponents. however this takes time. mayweather said with his own mouth that he dosent watch his opponents footage but reacts to what their doing while in the ring. that usually takes a few rds to do especially with a fighter like pac who is jumps in and out, is akward, and throws from all angles.
     
  15. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Late stoppage. Easy fight.