Pep vs Perez - What Happened?

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Just saw the fight. Pep was on the comeback trail. He got knocked down 3 times in the 2nd round. What happened in this fight? Many believed he took a dive? Is there anything of note or was Pep just off?
     
  2. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This one seemed to smell if any fight from that era did. Pep was suspended in New York for the rest of his career, I believe.

    Perhaps Henry or Burt can elaborate.
     
  3. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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  4. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    The Bill Clayton quote on fixed fights is interesting indeed.
     
  5. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Though Pep was not in contention for the featherweight crown, he continued to box successfully, winning almost all of his matches. He lost only once in 12 fights in 1952, and defeated all of his 11 opponents in 1953. Pep only fought five times in 1954, losing only once to Lulu Perez in the second round by TKO on February 26. After this loss, the New York State Athletic Commission took away Pep's boxing license because of his age (31). Pep's career continued in other states. He won all but one of his 24 fights between 1955 and 1957.
     
  6. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There was no doubt, it was fixed; Pep received a life time ban from ever fighting in NY state there after.
     
  7. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No need, you are spot on, and beat me to it.
     
  8. hhascup

    hhascup Boxing Addict Full Member

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    February 26- Lulu Perez beats Willie Pep by knockout in round two at New York. The fight is tainted with controversy, as many thought that it was a fixed fight. Pep later sued Sports Illustrated for 75 million dollars after Sports Illustrated ran a story in 1981 suggesting Pep took a dive for 16,000 dollars.
     
  9. Duodenum

    Duodenum Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's kooky, and stinks to high heaven. This was the fastest knockout win of Lulu's career. Willie was also accused of throwing his previous stoppage loss to Tommy Collins. (Ironically, Collins was later the second fastest knockout win Perez ever recorded, also in round two, and Tommy hung the gloves up after that.) With the exception of Ralph Walton, we get to see precious little of a pre plane crash Pep, yet we have film of this embarrassment. I think New York had enough of Willie after not just Perez, but his quitting in the final two Saddler fights.

    Collins had a good knockout record, and he'd put Saddler on the deck just prior to taking on Pep, so maybe Willie can get the benefit of a doubt here. Perez did not have the kind of record to suggest he was legitimately capable of stopping Pep the way he did.
     
  10. TBooze

    TBooze Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I am guessing he lost, because Sports Illustrated remained in business...
     
  11. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: He did indeed lose. The jury needed only a few minutes to deliberate, I read.
     
  12. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Now THAT, I did not know. Wow.
     
  13. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Was definitely a dive. You can tell by the way Pep theatrically flings his head when he goes down.

    That said, Pep is a much better actor than Joe Gans.
     
  14. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "age (31)"

    If this is the reason they gave, it sounds phony as hell. Why would anyone consider a 31 year old so aged he had to have his license pulled?
    How did Robinson and Moore get licensed?
     
  15. burt bienstock

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    hh says it all.. I remember the ko of Pep had the "smell" similiar to the Jake Lamotta /Billy Fox fight in 1947...The difference was Lamotta was 26 years old while Willie Pep was 31 when Perez Kod Willie in 1954...I believe an "arrangement " was made and Pep took a dive...Even though the 31 year old Pep was LONG past his prime, to be kod with one shot by Lulu Perez, was highly unlikely...Pep wasn't going to be champ again, so what the hell, I believe..b.b.