Old Greats v New Greats

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by stevo78, May 15, 2010.

  1. stevo78

    stevo78 Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,240
    Likes Received:
    0
    We all know that modern training techniques have improved dramatically. So modern fighters would undoubtedly have the stamina advantage over the old greats.

    What other advantages do modern boxers have over their recent (like last 30/40 years) contemporaries?

    e.g.

    Ali v Wlad.

    You may all laugh and immediately say Ali.

    But Im not saying p4p im talking prime Ali v prime Wlad.

    My thoughts would be that Wlad would simply be too big and strong? We all know Ali has a million times more ability than Wlad so in a p4p sense Ali crucifies him. Ignore that and just put the two prime versions in the ring with each other.

    Also what about-
    Any HW in history v PRIME Tyson

    I think a prime Tyson would beat any HW in history.
     
  2. VecArrow

    VecArrow Custom User Title Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2010
    Messages:
    6,776
    Likes Received:
    3
    Ali would corrie sanders Wlad.
     
  3. Meast

    Meast New Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2008
    Messages:
    0
    Likes Received:
    14
    What makes you think a prime Tyson would beat any HW in history?
     
  4. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2009
    Messages:
    19,229
    Likes Received:
    259
    How, tell me how please.
     
  5. pyro

    pyro New Member Full Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2010
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    I agree that prime tyson would beat pretty much every heavweight in history suppose can just put it dwn to me being a tyson fan but that tyson that destroyed berbick not to many faults perhaps there was someone pre 60's fighter that could beat him I stil li'm new to boxing so only no flyod patterson onwards but frm 60's up tyson unstoppable
     
  6. stevo78

    stevo78 Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,240
    Likes Received:
    0
    I think his power and speed would be too much for any other HW. He would also be about 20lbs (of ripped muscle) heavier than most.
     
  7. pyro

    pyro New Member Full Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2010
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    I forgot to respond to ali vs klit not taking a swipe at wlad but ali would be the best conditioned fighter he would have ever fought can't see him posing a threat to ali...Ali UD
     
  8. Meast

    Meast New Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Dec 6, 2008
    Messages:
    0
    Likes Received:
    14
    Well which HW's are you talking about here?

    I'd like to see a list from you and we'll go from there.
     
  9. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

    Joined:
    Feb 5, 2006
    Messages:
    9,543
    Likes Received:
    4
    Robin Givens KO 1 PRIME Tyson.

    Tyson had a glass mind.
     
  10. SHOTAT

    SHOTAT Scouse House Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2010
    Messages:
    732
    Likes Received:
    0
    Where do we begin! FFS!!!

    Why does this forum attract so many uninformed idiots who love to voice their uniformed opinions. It does my ****in swede in.
     
  11. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2009
    Messages:
    16,472
    Likes Received:
    1
    When asked, Mike Tyson during a sports show with Ali present, actually said a prime Ali would beat him.
     
  12. pyro

    pyro New Member Full Member

    Joined:
    May 15, 2010
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ye I have seen that tbh their few reasons could sway in either direction Ali could get in tyson's head plus ali would not be intimidated well wouldnt show it anyway if tyson could get ali out of there in 5 or 6 Ali would win but at same time ali has a good chin so who knows ppl could discuss this forever really
     
  13. joe33

    joe33 Guest

    "We all know that modern training techniques have improved dramatically. So modern fighters would undoubtedly have the stamina advantage over the old greats."

    WTF!!!! you mad mate, some of those old ****ers used to box 20-30 rounds, and fight 4-5 times per MONTH, and yeah yeah the standard to some may have been crap ( I would disagree here, like now some would be, but some would be great). As an example how many modern heavys could box 20+ rounds like the old pros ? before being totally gassed
     
  14. stevo78

    stevo78 Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,240
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well **** off onto another thread then and keep your pathetic opinions and thoughts to yourself.
     
  15. stevo78

    stevo78 Active Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2009
    Messages:
    1,240
    Likes Received:
    0
    Have you actually seen the end of most of those fights? The fighters are staggering around the ring punching thin air.