Old Greats v New Greats

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Do you really believe Mike Tyson had the beating of any heavyweight in history?

Mike Tyson should be name number 1 on the Over hyped list.

 

Prime Ali would KO a prime Wlad...Corrie Sanders touched his chin...Ali found Foreman's chin...he would find Wlad's easily...Wlad hasn't had a win over anyone legitimate since Sam Peter who almost KO'd him 4 **** sake

 

I'm still waiting for your list of HW's that Tyson could beat.

 

And ? The fact is many did manage to box that long, not to many modern fat as **** heavys would last that long, so how in the blue blazes have modern fighters got a stamina advantage, sam peters and chris arreola are two great examples i will use here, they can barley do the required 10 or 12 before being ****ed, and both are top fighters in todays HW scene no matter what people may say. The old fellas from the past would have ran rings round them for as many rounds as they needed to

 

Tyson is one of the best in history in his prime without a doubt...although its a stretch to say he could beat Lennox, Ali, Frazier, etc

 

if the fight with Evander happened in '91, its very possible Tyson could have lost that, too

 

It's called science.

I find it astounding that people cannot grasp that improved knowledge of how the body works, the advent of video and slow motion capabilities, and greater dissemination of information and data (such as the most effective techniques) leads to technical improvements in how a sport is practiced. Just as science over time has lead to a greater understanding of the natural world, the same applies to sport. We know how to do it better and now and it will continue to improve. You would never see a guy box or train like a boxer did 150 years ago for example.

 

If Prime foreman vs prime tyson fight 10 times .. I think it'll be 5-5 with 5 k.o. each ... ali would be tyson ... I think prime tyson has a chance against any 1 .. but if he fought ali .. prime holmes ... I think they take him ... but if tyson fights any1 3 times he k.o. them @least once ..

 

Wald is an exleent boxer who's biggest weekness is his chin. Ali is an exelent boxer who's biggest weekness is his punch. It would be an intresting fight.
As for Tyson. I think head to head he is the best of the short heavys, and he stands the best chance to beat the taller ones. However Taller boxer types are going to give him probblems.

 

Thats all well and good, butt for example modern heavyweights seem to have gone backwards bar the kits and maybe one or two others, whats the point of knowing all what you just said, and then turning up to fight well over weight, and looking like you have no game plan bar the one, then like most guys that have faced the K Bros, do nothing till you get taking out or your own corner rescue you.

Come on mate all that video footage, and info means **** all once your in there, and you get hit hard, your brain begins to panic, and you look like ****. Id personally love to see more old school fighters like the men from the past, who fought with real passion, and not all this ultra high tech stuff that seems to be doing **** all for the majority of modern heavy weights. Some bang on about how well prepared they are, and how advanced there training and camp has been, and many have huge teams checking everything they do, and then when you see them fight, well you scratch you head and wonder did they forget through all that training to actually box.

Compare that to the brutal old school fighters who trained like crazy ****ers, and who had all out wars, or just looked great, and in many cases had 100 fight careers. Obviously that had to change, many like that ended up wrecked, but i do think its gone to extreme, and somethings been lost somewhere.

Also im using the HW as the main example, due to them being seen as the more interesting fighters to most of the general public in terms of crowds and history, for me its gone a bit backwards there, though there are some great guys about, and i for one would not knock any guy willing to get into the ring