Floyds demands for November fight

Money has always mattered to Pac.

Him turning down a 40million fight was always going to be in the short term rather than long term. That goes for both floyd and Pac.

You just have to look at the ricky hatton negotiations to see how greedy pac is when it comes to money.

 

The reason Pacquiao agreed to 50/50 was because before the Cotto and Marquez fights they both fought De La Hoya and Hatton with Mayweather's fights making more money, I actually think Mayweather was quite generous for accepting 50/50 at the time.

However this is a new set of negotiations and with the Mosley fight beating any fight Pacquiao has ever had even though Roach said he was only half the draw of Cotto then it's no wonder that Mayweather now thinks he clearly deserves more.

All things considered who do you think brings more money to the table?

Also do you think Pacquiao was ducking Hatton when he went back on the 50/50 agreement to demand a larger slice of the purse?

 

pac back then is the big star and the clear number 1 p4p. he had just beaten oscar, hatton and cotto and is on fire. meanwhile floyd beat jmm and he suddenly got 50-50 split from pac who was more deserving that time. yes this is a new negotiations and it is floyd's prespective that he is the bigger draw. but is he really is? floyd got 1.4M over mosley who is a well known american HOF and with hype and promotions that probabaly cost GBP some fortune. meanwhile pac with an unknown clottey still got 0.7M PPV with almost zero promotions and by pac's name alone generated the 3rd highest indoor crowd in US history.

so ducking might be too strong a word but floyd certainly is not making it easy for this fight to happen. i only used the word ducking because you guys are too lenient in using it in pac's case when he fought cotto at welter instead of mosley at 140.

 

60-40? Not unless may wants to price himself out of the fight :think
Only venue is Vegas? Of course! Thats the only place roid mayweather can inject that big daddy Cain in his hands!
Drug testing non negotiable? Thats a given at this point.
Mayweather doesnt want this fight.

 

Being P4P#1 means nothing when it comes to negotiation purse splits, it's about who puts the most money in and it's why Mayweather had to accept a far smaller split against De La Hoya even though he had been P4P#1 for a few years leading up to the fight.

Not only has Mayweather's fights with De La Hoya and Hatton made more money than Pacquiao's did (I've not included Marquez like for like as it's not fair on Pacquiao) but he drew more money with Mosley than Pacquiao did with Cotto even though Roach said they chose to fight Cotto as they would earn twice as much money compared to Shane.

I don't see any way that Pacquiao's bringing in as much as Mayweather is, saying that 60/40 is a little off too and they should settle for 55/45 or 52/48.

If he had agreed to the testing the first time then he would have got 50/50, I don't see him getting that now but Floyd might surprise us all.

 

This is what's really funny here on ESB...

Pacquiao doesn't deserve it :|

Why? Because you prefer Mayweather? :|

Damn...:tired

50/50 is perfect for the 2 best fighters of the decade.

 

source or stfu. kthxbai.

 

:rofl, EXPOSED!

 

Can you say " I don't wanna fight Pacquiao?".....sounds like it to me!!!

 

pac is bringing in as much as floyd is. he is bringing in a diverse set of fans other than the americans who would normally watch a floyd fight. floyd has to know that it is only a pac fight who would earn him the biggest money he can get. 50-50 is fair then as it is fair now. pac earned 0.7M PPV fighting someone as a totally unknown clottey. i can't see floyd bringing much higher PPV with someone as clottey as an opponent. that alone proves pac's drawing power and why he deserves at least a 50-50 sharing. other than that, i think floyd is trying to make the negotiations harder.

 

If I were Pacquiao I would not accept any of those demands except the glove size being negotiable and not fighting for the WBO title.

 

60 - 40 as a starting point is pretty realistic. To be frank it probably wouldn't be that far off as an end point either. You see Floyd is not going to want to accept less money to fight Pacquiao then he got fighting Mosley. Problem there is that Floyd made 40 something million for that fight. He's not going to want to accept anything less then 50 million. Now once you start throwing 50-50 splits in there that means that before an expenses, distributer, or promoters get paid 100 million dollars has to be split between the two fighters. Want to know where the problem is? The Floyd-Mosely fight (which was the second largerest non-heavyweight fight in history) made just over 80 million dollars, which means that if the money was going to work for a Floyd Pac fight with a 50-50 split they would have to do 2.8 million buys....this means that this fight would have to be 600, 000 buys larger then DLH Mayweather, which is just not going to happen.

Kevin Iole wrote a good article a while back that outlined how the economics of this fight just don't make sense. All you guys trying to make more arguements as to why 60-40 is outragous need to think about the economics of the fight and realize how floyd making the same 40 million he was supposed to make against pac by fighting Mosley changes the situation.

 

floyd fans would defend floyds every demand even if it would make the fight less likely to make.

then they would bash pac when arum chose a different opponent for his last fight because of these floyd's excessive demands.

 

nah, floyd and pac was virtually guaranteed $25M each even without the PPV. PPV is just a plus. and this would earn more than floyd-mosley just because of pac's name. anything other than 50-50 which was already approved by both fighters then means they are trying to railroad the negotiations. 50-50 is the best way to start it and nothing else.