Is Michalczewski similar to Calzaghe?

You think Jones was near prime and Calzaghe was shot when they fought? Or are you just trying to be funny?

 

Plus Calzaghe is unproven as a light heavy. His two fights at that weight were against a 43 year old career middleweight and a half dead Roy Jones, both of whom dropped him.

 

sadly, DM is broke! it's been like that for some time now.. a really sad story as the guy earned a fortune. he also divorced x times and doesn't feel settled in the real life like many boxers before him.

yeah, i agree... it's damn shame we didn't see Dm vs RJJ... and we all know who fought police and fire men at that time.

 

Actually they fought a lot of the same guys, and Roy usually did better against the common opponent.

But i agree, it is a damn shame they didn't fight.

 

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here...sounds to me like you're justifying Calzaghe's win over a clearly shot Jones and you make it sound like he looked great in his wins prior to Calzaghe, the fight against Trinidad was a hopeless mismatch, with Trinidad fighting at 175 with his best years at welterweight add in the fact that he had been on an almost 3 year layoff and the fight was competitive for the first 6 rounds.

It was a good win in the sense that Calzaghe did what he was supposed to do in that fight...dominate. Yes, that was good. However, no matter how hard you try you can't overlook the fact that Jones had lost 3 consecutive fights to Tarver and Johnson and then tried to cover it with: Prince Ajamu, Anthony Hanshaw, and Felix Trinidad. If it was simply a matter of "oh, he needs some easy fights to get his mind right" than why didn't it work after Calzaghe when he destroyed semi-retired Omar Sheika(4 year layoff) and shot to pieces Jeff Lacy? Surely those confidence boosters would have prepared him for the terror of Danny Green, no?

There is nothing that would have made Calzaghe think Jones wasn't shot.

 

Joe took no risks? What? So he's no Manny Pacquiao, but he still took on a fancied unbeaten Jeff Lacy, when the US media were calling him the new Mike Tyson or something utterly ridiculous and Joe had hand issues.
He took on an unbeaten Kessler, which was a close fight in the early going before Joe pulled clear. Then he went to America and beat Hopkins, a win i dont think gets enough credit.

Theres a difference between your rating of a fighter and his risk taking. Joe may not have the best resume, and you may not rate him as a boxer. But if you dont see taking the 2 main contenders in your division at the time. Then going to the US and fighting Hopkins on his home soil, as a risk, then i dont know what is.

 

Michalczewski aint broke he even has his own foundation and helps young fighters by buying them stuff. What re you talking about?

 

Very good post. Calzaghe used the excuse of Roy's 3 past fights to cover up his previous statements of him saying Roy was no longer a great fighter and beating him would prove nothing.

When you look at those 3 wins..

Prince Badi Ajamu? who???

Anthony Hanshaw who was a SMW moving up, and still that was a very close fight until the 11th round, Roy was struggling big time.

Trinidad, hadn't fought in years and was almost 25 lbs up from his prime weight, and still won the first 3 rounds against Roy.

How all of that warrants a shot for the LHW title is beyond me.:yep

Joe was looking to cash out against a ring legend, and that is fine, but it needs to be called for what it was.

 

I've seen that fight only once, but as i am reminding it now i thought hanshaw was robbed.

 

m8, he couldn't even pay for one of his ex-wife and had to deal with police reinforcement. unfortunately, he's not one of the brightest lights and has lost lots of money dealing with property and similar stuff.

 

I thought Roy beat him close but clear, but Roy struggled the whole time, and honestly Hanshaw just isn't a very good fighter.

 

Oh **** off.

Prime DM had different assets to Joe. Joe was able to fight outside of his prime years in a way that tells you how many assets the guy really had and how capable he was as a fighter when the physical traits weren't there.

You don't need to justify any of Calzaghe's wins, you simply say "46 and 0, 24 title fights, every belt in a division and Ring championship in the division above."

Nothing that DM can say for himself.

 

I would have to agree with you, Calzaghe was a greater fighter than DM in my opinion.

 

No one really denies this, no one points at Jones Jr being in his Top 5 wins. People admit that it's just a cash out fight in his last fight, utilising the name of Jones Jr to earn money to go into the sunset.

Joe's best wins? Not in any order

1. Hopkins. P4P #3 at time of fight, Ring LHW champ, coming off impressive wins against Dawson and Winky, then easily dispatched Pavlik after his loss.

2. Robin Reid. Favorite to win the fight against Joe, former champ, a few fights removed from a screwjob against Ottke, forget the SD, the fight wasn't close, go back and review it. Reid at the time? Very capable fighter.

3. Mikkel Kessler. Unified champion, #1 at SMW to Joe's #C, while the Ward loss was a shock, he came back well against Froch, being an undefeated fighter with a belt, similar to Hopkins.

4. Byron Mitchell. Coming off a screwjob against Ottke. Wins against Frankie Liles, Manny Siaca, former champion, got spanked in 2 by Joe.

5. Mario Veit, beat him as an undefeated fighter, then again later on as a 45-1 fighter. Veit went on to beat Braehmer, current LHW champ. Got spanked by Joe.

Didn't even need Jeff Lacy or any of the other former champs Joe beat to indicate this point.

Career/Resume? Joe has better achievements than DM. Best wins? Joe has better wins than DM. Talent? Joe is more talented than DM.

 

I agree with you 100%, and Joe earned the right to go out the way he did... I don't think Jones had a problem with it either.

Guys like that Anglosaxon saying Jones was near prime and Calzaghe was shot was the type my post was directed at.