Questions for my New All Time Heavyweight List(Soon to be out)

I'm wrong then, missed afew contenders there. That is deep.

 

Harry Greb and Bbob Fitzsimmons miss out? More deserving than Ibeabuchi and some others on your list IMO. Or did I overlook them?

 

Didn't see Jack Johnson or Liston in your list -- would recommend them for consideration, along with Fitzsimmons and John L Sullivan (no film, except as old man)/

 

Jack Johnson is rightfully on the list, but I'm surprised to see Liston is not, surely a mistake?

 

Jawn L should be in (assuming that he is eligible under the criteria).

At the lower end of the spectrum there are a whole slew of fighters who could theoreticaly be substituted for sombody like Elmer Ray. .

 

I have Jimmy Young in my top 35. Some real top notch wins he has in Foreman, and Lyle 2x. I give him credit for the Shavers draw as well since he seemed to deserve the W from what I've gathered. He also deserves credit for the Ali/Norton fights for how bad he made them look and I had him edging the Ali fight and am going to score his bout with Norton shortly.

He's the ultimate spoiler.

 

I somtimes wonder if Young should be rated over Ken Norton.

 

Yes!
Young had better ability, resume, and he fairs better H2H IMO.
Norton came short against Shavers, Foreman, and Cooney.
Young beat Foreman, humiliated him, knocked him down, and exposed his technical flaws.
He drew with shavers once, but Norton got KO'd in one round.
Young was giving trouble to Cooney, and gave a much better fight then Norton ever could.
Young also beat Ron Lyle, who would have beat Norton IMO.
Yes, Norton did beat Ali once, but so did Young.. I certainly scored a wide decision for Young, Ali did not do much in that fight.
And as for Young vs Norton, it's probably one of my fav tactical fights, I reallly think young one that one too. Norton didn't do enough in the early rounds. I think his aggression may have turned the judges to his favor but i really think Young won that.
Young>Norton
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It was a **** fight ,close imo, but " wide decision"?

 

Eddie Machen

Larry Gains


Billy Miske


Bill Brennan

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mainly because he edged Norton in the early rounds.

 

Suzie rates Liston highly it is definitely an oversight.



On Harold Johnson I think Henry was his best win, he was on a nice run at the time and had racked up some good wins over the prior year.

 

Ellis
Terrell
Folley
Young
Doughlas
McCall
Byrd
Fitz
Conn
Greb