The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    His actions and decisions are of someone who is on something. It's fishy, but I would blame his horrible management and promoter.

    Still, anyone who questions him shouldn't be frowned at, it's a legit question considering everything him and his team have done.

    But, I don't think hes on anything.
     
  2. Jetmax

    Jetmax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're bluff's been called. Man up Floyd! Don't be a *****.
     
  3. hallelujahholla

    hallelujahholla Original Gangsta Full Member

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    people need to realize that Pac isn't really his own man when it comes to his career...he listens to his promoters and managers...unlike Floyd who dictates things himself (while getting his dick sucked by Ellerbe)....my personal opinions is that Manny was down to fight WHENEVER WHEREVER but Arum told him to wait...I just dont understand how people can support Floyd's accusations with NO PROOF WHATSOEVER.

    Floyd - "I can ABSOLUTELY beat Manny! Easy Fight!....but take this blood test that i've never asked any opponent to take...and yeah, I'm not scared at all"

    ...just ****ing fight Floyd...the guy is ****ing smaller than you anyway
     
  4. Knives7

    Knives7 Boxing Addict banned

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    :rofl:rofl I gave you a legitimate answer and you rejected them. I think we're done here. And no he is not as fast as he was when he was at 122-26. BTW if you think that just because a fighter(boxers in this) who is bigger (as you said heavier) will always dominate a lighter boxer then you're obviously wrong. You just have to look in the past. I'm done explaining. That's your opinion is your opinion. If you strongly believe that, it does not matter to me. Agree to disagree.

    This "Pacquiao is winning against bigger boxers, that I think should've destroyed him and send him to retirement, therefore he is on PEDs." is not a legitimate argument.
     
  5. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Um no. The people who think Manny is on steroids are:

    -- First they heard the buzz and thought nothing.
    -- Then the fight was signed (in principal) with USADA testing.
    -- Even Arum jumped for joy and said the fight was as good as made.
    -- Then Manny could not be contacted in PI.
    -- Then Arum flew to PI to have a face to face meeting with Pac. (Why not phone or email?)
    -- Then Arum returned and Pac said no USADA because they are biased for Mayweather!
    -- Then Team Pac said Manny was scared of needles.
    -- Then Team Pac said Manny was superstitious.
    -- Then Team Pac said blood testing weakened him and used a weight he drained for and compared it to a weight he eats 5 times a day an drinks protein shakes to maintain.
    -- Then Team Pac said test but not random.
    -- Then Team Pac said 30 days.
    -- Then the 24/7 video came out showing Pac happily testing at 24 days.
    -- Then Team Pac changed to 24 days.
    -- Then Team Pac said Mayweather wouldn't negotiate and didn't offer 14 days.
    -- Then Team Pac announced an in camp Top Rank opponent.
    -- Then Team Pac admitted they lied about 14 days being offered, but that the fight is off anyway. Why?
    -- Then Pac, who said 24 days was his "final offer", tested at 20 days for Clottey.
    -- Then Roach went on the radio the day after the blood tests saying Pac did 9 hard rounds sparring. Huh?
    -- Then Mayweather fights Mosley stating CONSTANTLY that it is USADA testing for ALL of his remaining fights.
    -- Then Team Pac says we won't negotiate in the press.
    -- Now Pac pops up offering 14 days... in the press. Go figure!

    Team Pac is a bunch of liars. Why would anyone even attemp to negotiate wth them again? It is obvious by the chain events that Pac is doing SOMETHING he doesn't want the world to know about. Pac may not be dodging Mayweather, but he is damned sure dodging strict USADA testing!
     
  6. Hatesrats

    Hatesrats "I'm NOT Suprised..." Full Member

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    Easy fix, Pump them both full of Roids & watch them go at it.
     
  7. Nes_01

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    cmon dude. uve been saying the same things over and over, where do u get the energy?

    btw, question: big floyd fan; or a detractor of manny?
     
  8. PH|LLA

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    some corrections there. The 14 day proposal came before Pac countered with 24 days.
     
  9. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    Man I don't know howmany people around here are like Paulie convinced that he's on roids but frankly we've just gone through round after round of sports purging where athletes that were looked up to as sports icons, who had never tested positive and basically continually denied being on steriods eventually ended up having to admit that they were on the juice when the balco thing broke. People are just so sick and tired of this type of bull**** that when someone refuses to take a test. Claims they don`t even know what "this steriods is" and then constantly changes his reasoning for not wanting to take the test people over on this side of the pound start to get a little annoyed with his actions. I mean just to come out and say you don't know what steriods are is just a completely ******ed move. I mean the guy is smart enough to get himself elected, he's been a professional boxer for nearly 15 years and he wants me to believe he doesn't even know what they are...okay....I'll believe that when hell freezes over. Anyways, point is most people don't "believe" he is on anything. They think there is a possibility that he's on something and they're not all that impressed with the way he's been acting.

    Edit: ****, I mean today the big story in the press is that former tour de france winner floyd landis just caim out and basically anounced that he's basically used every type of PED in as many ways as he could, and for a very long time. Now this is a guy who spent nearly 3 million dollars of his own money over a two year period challenging a positive test result in every court he could. Every step of the way strongly denying that he every used them. And now that all his possible avenues of appeal are exhausted and he's tried everythign to clear his name he comes out and says "ya I was on PEDS the whole time." Honestly, if we have guys like that poping up everywhere can you at least see how it would be hard for us to believe a guy when he says he's not doing anything but then says no to a test?
     
  10. mrtony80

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    Not trying to pat myself on the back, or bring attention to this video (I already posted it before anyway) I'm just trying to make a point...look at my build. Some guys at the gym swear up and down I take some ****, because I just started lifting weights for the first time in my entire life last October...

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRAcB65w18g[/ame]

    I weighed 138 in October '09, when I first started lifting weights. I'm now approaching 150. 12 pounds of muscle in 6 months...

    ...I have never taken **** in my life. (not that I wouldn't. I just don't have access to anything:lol:)

    I have what they call a "mesomorph" body type...a body that builds muscle very easily. So does Pac.
     
  11. kartog

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    It's not absurd when you realize these bitches have been lurking in the wings waiting for anything to hit Pacquiao with, to satisfy whatever it is inside them that needs satisfying.

    These are the guys who applauded convicted drug dealer Floyd Sr. when he first brought up these baseless accusations.

    Given enough time to marinate and a few media personalities who pushed the angle having their own agendas on the matter, those fans who are in the middle, but easily swayed, what you may call "shrimps", because after being presented with a trainer's "educated opinion" on the matter, get on the bandwagon themselves. Why? Because it's more interesting if you know or suspect someone of doing shady stuff, it's racy.

    And so you have some people acting the way they do on the issue.
     
  12. RobertV77

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    Yeah Manny dodging the only testing that can prove he is clean does a lot for his credibility. Along with all the intelligent excuses and the fact he is shitting away millions is pretty strong circumstantial evidence. I'm comfortable assuming he is dirty till he proves otherwise.
     
  13. Scar

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    Only the ignorant will believe that. He passes the test he's required to pass and that's all there is to it. Either appreciate or **** on your guys only to cry later about how boxing is dying.
     
  14. hallelujahholla

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    THANK YOU!!!! People don't realize how EASY it is for a smaller, lean guy to BUILD MUSCLE FAST...get in the gym and take protein...its not ****ing hard...Arum hates Floyd...no way in hell he was gonna let his fighter cave to his demands.
     
  15. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I say the same things over and over because you can't change history! :lol:

    I enjoy banging on these idiots.

    I liked FMJ. Had no opinion on Pac. Then I met his fans. Now I hate them an him. (I say this tongue in cheek. I got a few "*******s" that I consider solid guys no matter how delusional they are.)

    Notice that they don't refute anything I say right?
     
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