The most overrated boxer ever is........

Oscar De La Hoya

:deal

Tyson was a ****ing beast at least top 15 heavyweight ATG

 

Yeah... but Toney's in your avatar, mate.

 

This thread is ****.

 

Floyd Mayweather
Hasn't fought a top-level fighter who wasn't either past him prime or moving up in weight since 2002. You can't go 8 years of your career without facing a single top-level challenger and call yourself ATG, much less "best ever".
You take the list of guys Floyd fought after leaving 135, and compare to the list of guys he could have fought, and it's clear he took the easy road, avoiding all the most dangerous competition.

 

Tyson is/was overrated when people say he would beat all HW in history! But the most overrated boxer ever..:nono

 

@ 135 really . . . who?

 

Castillo was the last guy he faced that fits the bill I described above.

 

Castillo was the easy road? Who was better than him @ 135 at the time?

 

Am I losing my mind? Castillo, at 135, was the last guy Floyd fought who was in his prime, at the top of the game, and from his own weight class. Since then, he hasn't faced anyone that wasn't either way past his prime, smaller, just not at the top-level.

 

My own choice would be Joe Calzaghe.

He was a very good fighter, but his zero seems to make naive fans think he could "defeat any style", "would always find a way to win", or other such bull****.

I watch his fights and I see a limited and flawed fighter (albeit talented and effective in his own way) who would have been outclassed by a prime HOF-calibre fighter who had decent skills and ring intelligence - had he ever fought even one of them.

 

Opps, I miss read your earlier point. LOL! sorry mate!

I rate fighters more on skill and talent than record . . . who has more skill than PBF right now? Pac has an argument but that is Pac! So who would consider at number 2 p4p right now if not PBF? If you cannot name anyone how is he overrated?

as for his all time status, only 2 people can compete with him for the best of the last 20 years RJJ (hate) and Pac (love) . . . who else is on there skill and talent level?

 

I don't see how there can be one most overrated boxer of all time. Many boxers are overrated during their career, until they run into a reality check, Lacy or Pavlik of recent times come to mind. After a completed career, there are fans idolizing certain fighter and haters bashing them and everything in between.

With some fighters, especially from mythologized eras, it seems less politically OK to even mention the possibility that they could lose to a current fighter who doesn't generate as much excitement. A fair discussion about an Ali - Klitschko matchup is almost impossible, which to me meand that Ail tends to get overrated a little. When it comes to fantasy matchups of past greats vs. more recent or current fighters, I would say Ali, Joe Louis, Thommy Hearns, Duran and Frazier are often overrated. Not that they weren't legends, but when it is implied that nobody today could beat them.

 

Balcquiao

 

Jack Johnson

 

You can't rate anyone's talent until they face the best opposition. That's why you can't put Floyd up there. You can't just say, based on talent, I think he would've beaten so-and-so. You have to see it. Lots of betting underdogs win fights. Floyd may be the most talented guy out there, but he's refused to face the toughest opposition available to him. So there's really no way to tell. Same thing goes for Roy. I dont' put him up there either. And like it or not, posterity will show that those two will be dogged by their safety-first approach to selecting opponents when it comes to ATG conversations.