I agree he is physically a freak. Some humans have a gene which keeps their bodyfat percentage in the single digits for their entire life whether they train or not. My mother and uncle have that same gene. It means they can eat anything, never exercise, and look like they've been training all their life. Now if you have those genes on top of training hard then you end up being like a Floyd Mayweather, a Timothy Bradley, or a Manny Pacquiao. To be an elite fighter you need good genes and you have to train hard. Of course if Bradley ever starts knocking people out they'll say hes no steroids.
Haye is someone I wonder if they are on steroids. He is huge but he wasn't always like that which makes him a bit suspect doesnt it? But nobody is asking Haye to take a drug test. Manny on the other hand always was ripped to shreds and they wait until now to test him? The guy was the most ripped fit looking boxer since forever. That being said I think Lacy is fit because of training not genetics. He's a level of fitness that a lot of people can reach with good training and diet. I don't think anybody on this forum can get to David Hayes level and maintain that size. This thread probably belongs on the fitness section or training section of the site.
From my research theres one gene in specific or an expression of a gene which prevents muscle from being able to break down in the normal fashion. This is why some people put on so much muscle without doing much exercise. The bodyfat condition isn't so simple but it's clearly genetic. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/12/051208230252.htm normal to be ripped 24/7 365.
I don't know if its genes, which is possible But I know a semi-pro rugby player who was always in great condition... no fat on him, decided he wanted to get bigger, trained for 2 years and put on 12 pounds of lean mass Haye put around 15 pounds of lean mass on in about 3 months Speak to anyone serious about body building, and they'll pretty much argue that he'd taken steroids or HGH I would not be surprised if high number of boxers had taken steroids, particularly HGH.
I put on 20lbs of lean mass over a summer, but I was 18 years old. David Haye has to be almost 30 years old now and hes still able to do this? You can know someone is on steroids or not by the time in their life they put on mass, not just how much mass they put on. Testosterone and growth hormone spikes at certain times in the average males life. At age 14, at age 18-21, and at age 28-30. And from age 30 and down their testosterone and growth hormone levels dramatically fall. This means anyone over 30 who is still getting bigger is suspect and this is why people are suspicious of Manny Pacquiao. Look at Roy Jones, look at Floyd Mayweather, they each have what most would consider perfect genetics and they aren't/werent as muscular in their 30s as they were in their peak in the mid 20s. Every male peaks out in his 20s. I don't believe David Haye put on 15lbs of muscle in 3 months and has the ripped body type he has. Thats extremely difficult to do. Usually people who put on muscle like that put on some fat too and aren't as ripped as they were when they move up. Or if they don't put on some fat too then they put on muscle at a rate of maybe 2-3lbs a month.
It's not impossible to put on 20lbs of muscle. It's impossible to put on 20lbs of muscle without putting on fat along with it. You can put on 20lbs of muscle and it's called a bulking cycle. You typically will see your body fat percentage increase a few percentage points and thats if you have good genes. You wont and cannot physiologically built pure muscle without using drugs or doing it very slowly. Just like you cannot burn pure fat unless you do it slowly. So you bulk and get chubby, then you cut and get ripped, then you bulk and cut and bulk and cut and you cycle like this for years and thats body building. We would have to see some pics of Haye when he's not looking ripped to know if hes natural or if hes cheating. I know the body type in his pictures is not very natural looking. This content is protected WTF?
Wlad and Vitali are a good example to contrast. They have good genes and they do a bulking cycle. This is why they don't look in fighting shape when you see them on the street. Their body cannot maintain that level of fitness without overtraining and the only way to never overtrain is via steroids.
The only conclusive way to know if there is "cheating" is to "take the test". All the rest is conjecture.
What was Haye's fight-time weight at CW? Did he cut weight for the scales and rehydrate for the actual fight? Just wondering how much he actually gained. Adamek gained a lot of weight, that's for sure.
Are you saying they both use PEDs to bulk up in a short period of time? Or are you saying they both let their body rest, then go all out in training to bulk up and cut for the fight because that's the duration their body can handle but not longer than that? The both do look smaller when they are not fighting.
The first person that brought gay into this thread was the person thinking it. Unless someone is thinking it, it's not gay. The "Athlete" should be looked at as a machine. The only time it gets into a sexual discussion is when you have that on the mind...like I would if we were discussing female "athletes." I don't particular care how good a female athlete is to be honest. Sure, I can appreciate it on some level, but...I'm not looking at her ass thinking..."Her Gluteus- maximus, and her thick thighs, has a nice shape, very built, which shows her lower body strength and allows her to sprint faster." NO, I'm thinking of.... Trainers/Coaches, Scouts, other Athletes, "betters," etc. tend to dissect the athlete just like you would a car. Think of it that way and it won't be "gay." Athlete = Machine.