18 day cutoff for SSM/Money ... I call BS

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Buzz Killington, May 22, 2010.


  1. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Active Member Full Member

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    The last episode of 24/7 clearly showed SSM being tested about a week before the fight. Has anyone actually seen in a CREDIBLE news source that SSM and Mayweather were last tested 18 days before the fight? And I don't want any of that Examiner, Michael Marley **** either or anything from the Philippines. Someone provide a REAL link to get this **** sorted out.
     
  2. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    That was urine.

    Is yahoo not credible enough?

    It's not an 18 day cutoff. It's random, so they don't know when the testing stops. If you have a 14 day cutoff then it isn't random and there is no risk/threat up to the fight.
     
  3. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    absolutely!

    There was no cutoff, but the testing agency just happened to not test 18 days out. If Pac and May were to have no cut-off, there is no guarantee if they would be tested the day before, or even 20 days out. So although there is no test, the threat of one eliminates anyone from using anything illegal.

    Quite simple. I don't see how anyone, regardless of who they are a fan of, could confuse the "18-day cutoff" with "18 days picked randomly"?!?!
     
  4. lucasehr

    lucasehr Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah there was definitely not a cut-off date, it was just random, as stated above. The testing was done by USADA and that organization has stated that they will not use a cut-off date; if anyone wants to use USADA they have to abide by their guidelines and they use pure randomness. So if you ever see fighters using USADA there is no chance that there is a cut-off date.
     
  5. Round1gymDC

    Round1gymDC Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can, Arum and his PR team
     
  6. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Make no mistake my man...

    Arum and his PR team are not confused about this. They know full well that no cut-off date means that any day those USADA mother****ers can come busting in the room for blood.


    That is a far cry from a cut-off date of 18 days. One will deter usage for the entire process, while the other will give a window of opportunity.

    It's the idiotic Pac junkies who are either confused about the difference, or just plain ignoring it. Either way, this is the ignorance Bob Arum is countng on.
     
  7. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    LMFAO...THATS THE FUNNY THING...THEY ACTUALLY WERE DUMB ENOUGH TO DO IT:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl PAC REALLY NEEDS TO GET A SMARTER TEAM...

    I mean first he makes false statements to the press and gets caught LYING HIS AZZ OFF...than tries to do it again but catches himself...

    now the id1ot thought they had a cut off..:bart Bob needs help
     
  8. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    It was a random decision by the USADA to have the last blood testing 18 days before the fight. It does make me wonder why they would not blood test for almost 3 weeks before the fight after all their talk of having too big a window. Seems to me the USADA was scared to maybe see 2 zombies in the ring May 1st.

    If they insist on random, it should be random, til the day of the fight. But Pac and Floyd should have the option of cancelling or postponing the fight if they feel like they have been weakened at any point before the fight. After all, this is really all about ensuring a clean and PEDs-free megafight, right? It should also be about having the 2 best in boxing being in top form without any physical or mental compromises.
     
  9. Relentless

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    i dont think they had a cut off, USADA just stopped testing, mosley and mayweather had no idea when testing would end.
     
  10. mughalmirza786

    mughalmirza786 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :deal I cant believe people are even making a issue of this. Did they really expect the agency to test them 3 times a day everyday to the date of the fight?
     
  11. PetethePrince

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    :lol:

    :-(

    There are zero physical effects from taking a tint of blood before a fight. Runners do it at the Olympics all the time taking much more blood right before a race with no ill-effects. Stop spouting this nonsense.

    The effects can be mental. But if they're mental they are only, or should only be a few hours. When I was younger taking blood made me feel sick. I threw-up and passed out. I was still running around like a kid 5 hours later though. Of course, the effects were all mental (And I actually don't like needles. Unlike Pacquaio).

    These are the type of comments coming from people who probably have never played a sport in their life.
     
  12. P4P

    P4P Active Member Full Member

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    I don't get how people can not understand this
     
  13. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    ok. now the only thing floyd has got to do is agree to the 14 days cut-off which pac had already conceded. if he doesn't, he clearly dont want a piece of pacquiao and would rather be fighting old fighters.
     
  14. grimlocked

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    It's also possible there was really a blood test a few days before the fight (as shown in 24/7 before Mosley went to Vegas) but they didn't like the outcome so they struck it out. :-D

    Or maybe Olympics style testing means they test for numbing agents like Xylocaine and Floyd had to use it a few days before the fight so they didn't submit the results of the last test to NSAC.


    Did you guys notice how quick (often times less than 24 hours) Tygart always comes to the rescue for Floyd and GBP?

    For example, he used to be OK with 14 days, when he said "I'm not worried about the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period, I'm worried about the rest of it. If someone's telling you that's where it fell apart, I think you've got to add the follow-up, 'Well, what kind of testing was going to happen before the 14-day or the 24-day blackout period?' The 14-day period, I'm a lot less concerned about that than what you're doing in the two months before that 14-day period".

    But when Pac said he is now OK with 14 days, Tygart has this to say: "“If you know you aren’t going to be tested within the last 14 days, you can cheat and get away with it".
     
  15. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Everyone is not the same as far as how the body reacts. Giving even a little blood makes me dizzy and gives me a bad headache. I'm sure you'd have no problem being stung by a bee other than the burning pain while it can be a death sentence for a couple of my friends if they don't get quick emergency treatment.

    So I'm guessing you also believe Pac has a secret time machine to be able to do this interview in 2005 to defend his actions today?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxdxjE8GE_4[/ame]