If he had only had Jeffries chin he might have really shocked the world. I don't doubt Jeffries was a good puncher ,but I see him as being some distance below top flight.
To be honest, I think that Sharkey would have done at least as well against Patterson as Chuvalo did.
Depends on the ruleset imo. Under Patterson´s rules he would get out-classed imo. I also think Patterson would outclass Jeffries under his ruleset - too fast, too skilled and too good defensivly. In a fight to the finish fight both, Sharkey and Jeffries, would win without a doubt. IMO this is hardly comparable. It was a different sport back then. It´s not fair to either era to compare the pre 1920/30 fighters to the ones afterwards. I also think the changes of 15 to 12 rounds, mutliple belts and so ion that came up in the 80s is a similir cut off date in boxing history. To me it looks like three eras, the transition era from 1870/80 to 1920/30, the modern era from 1930 to the early/mid 1980s and the post-modern era from then on.
Regarding Sharkey you are simply incorrect. Where are you getting your information from ? The man was very strong. He had very decent power and was extremely fast. There are hundreds of newspaper accounts that follow the training and fights of these men. Try studying them before you make such innacurate statements. Are we supposed to asume they did not know what sped was then as well ?
The Floyd Patterson who fought for his life against Perer Jackson or the one who was dropped and fought a competitive first three rounds with Peter Racemacher ? Sharkey , of course depending on the ring size and ref, would have been brutal for Patterson. A faster , harder hitting Chuvalo.
Correct ... I find it amazing the opinions many here make . They clearly lack knowledge of the men and the era. Jeffries was a methodical counter puncher ... he did not explode out of his corner loking for a fast KO .. He was very cagey and smart ... it was simply his style.
And if Jeffries was stopped by non-pnchers like Ali , dropped by feather fisted slapper like Jimmy Young or collasped from heat exhaustion after only 8 or 12 rounds he would have been the disgrace of his age. You clearly cannot factor the difference in fighting styles or conditons .. the mere fact you refer to Fitz at 167 shows you can do a bit more research on this topic ... your using heavyweight history soundbites 101 here ..
Speaking of Sharkey here, I have read much from newspaper accounts and from contemporaries... I don't remember much differing from these accounts than him rushing his opponents and throwing haymakers from another zipcode and absorbing inhuman punishment. Hardly sounds scientific to me.
Do you have Adam's book on Jeffries ? It has dozens of detailed , firt person accounts specifically on this subject. It is an amazing body of work .. I strongly recommend it ...
I don't have his Jeffries book, no. And at the current state of running my own business, don't think I'll have the green to afford it for a while. However, since I have some free time this morning, I just re-read half a dozen fight recaps from the NYT involving Sharkey and found nothing that did not support my assertion of his fighting qualities. Please enlighten to me to what I am missing. Seriously. I am not claiming to be some sort of expert of Sharkey, though I have read my share of opinions on him.