Roach: The shoulder roll will not work against a southpaw.

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Only a ******* would not see the relevance of Pac coming out of a lopsided fight with his face bashed up against a guy who threw 200 punches. :good

    *******s are morons. :lol:
     
  2. Relentless

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    pac got busted up by a guy who only threw 200?

    he must have weak skin.
     
  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    no doubt Pacquiao is at a major disadvantage when he's fighting at 147
     
  4. Alo2006

    Alo2006 R.I.P Sean Taylor Full Member

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    If Roach believe everything he said about Mayweather being slower and weaker than Pac, and also don't have no legs...Then his game plan will be wrong for Pac, and he will be in for a shock when Pac lose :yep
     
  5. bald_head_slick

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    I was averaging. Clottey threw 400 and only landed 100. That pic is what Pac looked like after.

    Weak or strong skin only matters if you are eating leather.
     
  6. bald_head_slick

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    What are you yapping about? Clottey landed *108* punches in that fight you clown and THAT was the result! It has nothing to do with race.

    Can you please tell me the section of boxing rules where scoring or allowed punches are modified to compensate for the fragility of a boxer's skin? You can't moron that is what your "observation" is silly. Second, it doesn't matter how fragile your skin is if you are... NOT GETTING HIT!

    So due to lack of pigmentation and lower collagen levels, yes fairer skinned people tend to cut and bruise more easily, however there is a vast difference between some boxing strawberries and getting your face split open.

    Why don't you tell Sergio Martinez that crap. :patsch
     
  7. Buzz Killington

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    Roach said Mayweather lost his legs and now Pac fans are clinging to that like a drowning man clings to a life raft.

    If I was Pac I would be worried. Here's why:

    1) Pac's offense and power come from leaping into punches. Mayweather made the bigger SSM fight off his back foot. How will Pac fight moving backwards? My guess is, not well;

    2) Floyd's counter right is the best it has ever been. Pac is tailor made for it;

    3) You barely saw Floyd's other main weapon in the SSM fight, the left hook. But Manny will see a ton of it as Floyd uses it to counter Manny's straight left;

    4) Floyd is deceptively strong. If Floyd chooses to walk Manny down, Manny won't be able to muscle him away;

    5) Floyd has some weapons that he hasn't shown in a while that Manny won't be ready for, like his right uppercut.

    Manny is dangerous but if he doesn't show that he can tag Mayweather with something big consistently, he's done. Manny doesn't have anything in his arsenal as heavy as SSM right hand and Floyd took two flush and kept coming. Add the size disadvantage and I don't see how Pac wins this fight.
     
  8. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    if the same pacquiao shows up to fight floyd mayweather that fought joshua clottey no march 13th than pacquiao will get beat easy...THOUGH PAC WON EVERY ROUND WITH CLOTTEY HE LOOKED WEAK "TECHNICALLY"...IF CLOTTEY CAN LAND THE FEW PUNCHES ON PAC THAT HE DID THAN FLOYD WILL HAVE A MUCH EASIER TIME FINDING HIM..NOT EVEN A COMPARISON
     
  9. Gander Tasco

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    I like your guys logic. Clottey, a top welter, loses every round to Pac and lands a few straight right hands, and that's supposed to tell us something about Pac-Mayweather? You guys are just desperate as hell aren't you.
     
  10. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What are you talking about moron? I am saying a guy who averaged 33 punches per round and 9 actual connects could do that to your face it says a little something... You are easy as hell to hit! :bbb

    How in the hell do you think his face is going to look when, and everything I am about to say is literal, Pac goes up against the MOST accurate puncher... EVER?

    Only a newb like you keeps harping on the "shoulder roll" when in his toughest fights Mayweather uses a high guard. Uh oh! The SAME defense that baffled Manny for 12 rounds and let his opponent leave the ring looking better than he did.
     
  11. Gander Tasco

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    No kidding. And Pac's face was hardly "busted up" . He has a small cut under his right eye, and slight bruising. And it's not like your going to come out completely unscathed against Clottey.
     
  12. Buzz Killington

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    Pac got hit with almost everything meaningful Clottey threw. Pac's defense is porous to say the least.

    Pac's defense + Mayweather's accuracy = :yikes
     
  13. bald_head_slick

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    You, like most *******s, fail to take into account ANY of the issues surrounding that fight:

    -- Clottey didn't have his desired trainer
    -- Pac hired Clottey's life long sparring partner (Super weak! :-( )
    -- Clottey wouldn't look at his trainer in the face the whole fight
    -- Clottey has said he was sick as hell going into the fight
    -- Somehow Clottey recieved a purse DOUBLING bonus for that performance :huh

    So now Gander... On to the analysis. Answer these questions:

    -- What defense does Mayweather use when being offensive?
    -- What is Mayweather's favorite punch?
    -- Who is the MOST accurate puncher in boxing today?
    -- Clottey landed a "few" how many did he throw? (He hit once for every 4 thown! :bbb)

    Nobody's desperate. You just don't know how to see what is right in front of you.
     
  14. Gander Tasco

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    lol, no he didn't. He threw about 400 punches and landed 27%. Most of shots were blocked or parried. The best shots were landed when Manny basically allowed him to get off in hopes of opening him up.

    Floyd barely throws more punches then Clottey and he's just as cagey against southpaws. Pac will outwork him or TKO him in the mid-late rounds.
     
  15. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    Nope not at all..I honestly believe manny got hit too much on March 13th..Floyd is a lot more precise and will land alot easier than Clottey..

    plus floyd is a better counter puncher than jmm and clottey..that mixed with the fact that his footwork is superior to pacs and he can keep it a chess match..

    gander i think you expecting an all out "fight"...u fail to realize that if floyd wants to..he can use his better footwork to control the tempo of the fight (not to mention his size and length to control manny)and make this a chess match..

    and even your not gonna sit here and tell me that pac can win a "chess match" with floyd:good