Roach: The shoulder roll will not work against a southpaw.

No I'm implying that Floyd has had issues with southpaws, which is a fact. And Zab Judah in particular gave him trouble because of his fast hands. I'm not saying Pac is Judah, but that he's way better then Judah and he's going to do the things that he did to give Floyd problems offensively on a much higher scale.

 

atsch When did I say I knew more than Roach? You can keep that strawman arguement to yourself stan!

I know exactly what a shoulder roll is and its not impossible to roll a power left if you can get into the right angle...Its not everday you see but it can be done so stop trying to act like its not totally not effective or the shoulder roll cant negate left handed fight. Highly unlikely but not impossible!

 

No they did things that Floyd simply never does which is throw combinations, and fight. Marquez and Morales at points backed Pacquiao off with combinations and fought fire-with-fire. Floyd is just going to look for one or two shot at a time at very slow intervals and go on defense every other time.

 

Gander if this fight happens PLEASE do not take ANY lifetime ban bets and I BEG of you to log in no later than right after the fight!:thumbsup

 

lol don't worry man I'll be here right after the fight. I'm sure ESB will be overloaded though for like 2 days straight.

 

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I can find 100 more like it on YouTube.

:-(

 

I was having chills during round two!

"Oh snap how will I go back to ESB?!?" :yikes

 

He doesn't put punches together like that anymore. And 99% of that was against orthodox fighters.

Anyway I don't wanna debate this anymore. We're beating a dead horse. I just wanna see this fight. It's gonna be a great one :bbb . **** you all.

 

"Early" in the sense of "within the distance". Stopping him regardless of the round is reaching and I'm sure you are aware of that even if you won't admit it. I just find it difficult to see the logic behind your opinion based on Floyd having trouble putting away "lesser" foes.....but hey....upsets happen and I'm sure the unexpected has also happened in this sport more than once.:yep

 

-- You obviously are under a new account so it isn't like you honor bets anyway.
-- I am not a gambling man.

My prediction is that Pac will start fast finding some success in early rounds. If Pac doesn't seriously do something by the third round he is doomed. Pac will get stopped late either due to cuts or getting RTD.

It doesn't take rocket science. No matter what style you put into the ring the fight ends up looking very similar. Good first two rounds. Even at the half. Cracks form 6-8. 9-12 they might as well stop it as the opponent is so far behind he needs a KO and he can barely even land a shot.

 

We love you too! :grouphug

 

Marquez is a counter puncher who did much better with pac than Judah did with Floyd. Pac has always been open to the straight right hand down from that time he got his AZZ knocked the **** out by that Thai guy all the way down to his most recent fight.

 

You video does not prove anything.

Roach was referring to dynamics on two opposing stances and the role of the shoulder role. It is based on basic boxing principles which you don't undertstand.

The actual fight is entirely different!

Posting a video does not do a ****! It never changes that dynamics. Meaning positions of fighters, stance, punching relative to each other.

Did you prove Roach wrong? I presume because you must have boxed just like everybody else in ESB that you are correct.

 

:verysad I give up on you dude...go back and read my orginal quote and quit coming up with these pointless arguements...I clearly stated that the shoulder roll can be effective against southpaws...Nobody is saying that it will be the best defensive style to beat a southpaw but to say its not effective is rather stupid, so again go type all of that other irrelavent **** you've type to somebody that doesnt know any better.

BTW, I didnt post the damn video!

 

Sad. Looks like that *******ation virus is rampant and spreading! :yep

Right on. Charities are cool.

Make it even though. Not fair for it to be weighted against you. A bill on the win or $75 for the win and $100 on a stoppage. Even Steven. :good