Could Manny retire without facing an African American?

The Diaz fight was a reasonably challenging 'moving up fight'. From there Pacquiao has had four fights. One was jumping to WW to fight DLH (who, lets remember, was expected to slaughter him), then you have two top five WWs and the linear LWW champion. It's hardly a ****ing study in cherry picking.

And, as I pointed out earlier, it's not 'strange' in the slightest for a fighter at these weight ranges (LWW-WW-LMW) to have four fights without fighting a black American. Mosley went six years without doing so. Cotto will have six fights in a row without facing a black American. Mayweather had four fights and four years between Judah and Mosley.

 

Fighting De La Hoya at 147, a weight he hadn't been at in 7 years, was known by everyone with a brain. Everyone knew that if Oscar made the weight he would be severely drained, even Freddie Roach, who told Shane Mosley the reason he fought Oscar at 147 was because he knew it would kill him and that he would not fight Shane at the weight because he was still too good.

Mosley went years without fighting a black fighter because black American fighters are his kryptonite, lets also not forget the drought would have been shorter if the Zab fight didn't get scrapped because of an injury.

 

Hatton was ko'd by Lazcano?! You didn't watch that fight.

Nobody sane thought Cotto lost to Clottey. Williams hasn't been seen at welterweight for years. Why would you complain that he fought instead of Mosley who lost to Cotto when that's exactly the argument you're using to disparage the idea of fighting Margarito?

 

You must not have watched the fight

7:30 of the video, Lazcano has Hatton on the way out then the ref breaks and lets Hatton have a 2 minute break to collect himself so Hatton can tie his shoe atsch
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs6lQy1SAAQ&feature=related[/ame]


Yes a great deal of people on this forum and myself included thought Clottey was robbed in MSG that night. As for fighting Mosley I'm talking about after the Cotto fight, when Mosley had slaughtered Margarito, you know the guy with the wraps who beat Cotto down. As for Williams, he was available to everyone at WW, if they wanted the fight all they had to do was challenge him, not the mention he challenged him (Manny).

Either way Berto, Mosley, Williams are at WW besides Floyd. I know for a fact that after the Cotto fight it made no sense for Manny to be fighting Clottey when division champs and Paul Williams were openly challenging him if the Mayweather fight did not go through.

 

Come on man. Diaz was not the man. Like I said, I will take the "monetary and matchmaking" defense. I will not take the "took on all the tough challenges" defense.

I don't blame anyone for fighting DLH, but this is where he began to be exposed. DLH was NOT a force or even competitive at 147. Steve Forbes lumped him up. Cotto? Come on. Hatton? Come on. Clottey? I am skeptical about this fight, but that is for another thread. Now Margarito is putting his career on hold for Pac? Sheesh!

Pac isn't setting up a meaningful fight with the handful of guys floating around. Many of whom I feel are beatable by Pac AND better names than Margarito! Berto (beatable), Williams (beatable), Bradley (favored, but green).

Like I said. I wil accept the monetary defense. The warrior one just doesn't fit.

(Mayweather DUCKED Williams too!)

 

Ahahaha, All very well for someone who signed up last month to proclaim that 'everyone knew' that Pacquiao would win. No-one with a posting history can make that claim because everyone was far from knowing that, a great number expected Pacquiao to be overwhelmed and posted as such.

 

Why don't you look at my first post if you want to find out how long I've been here. Like I said a lot of people on this forum said that Clottey was robbed, then a lot of Pac fans used the notion that Clottey actually beat Cotto as cover for why it was ok for Manny to fight Clottey after the Cotto fight.

 

I watched it, hence I know what happened. Hatton dominated the fight bar one decent spot for Lazcano where Hatton looked somewhat stunned. Maybe you and I have a different definition of 'kod'? And of course the referee had the fighter tie his shoe when it was untied (after the ref had inadvertently stepped on it leading to it being untied) during a break in action, what else would you expect to happen?

Anyone can talk, Williams hasn't fought at WW in two years. He does talk though, I'll give you that.

 

Hatton was out on his feet and Lazcano was nailing him, it was only a matter of time till it was over, until the mysterious shoe tying and the break for no reason other than to give Hatton a breather.

Williams was blackballed out of 147 by GBP, MainEvents, and Arum, he couldn't get a meaningful fight because none of the champs would fight him. That is why he left, not because of the weight, so lets not try to act like Paul Williams was not a legit option for ANYONE at 147.

 

All that did was remind me that you were the spaz saying Alvarez not weighing in bang on 147 for non-title fights meant he didn't have the discipline to ever be a champion :rofl

I'm suprised you didn't just create a new alias straight away after the amount you got owned in that thread...

 

Why would I shy away from a WW Alvarez not taking the time to make weight in a schedule WW fight and instead showing up as a Jr. MW, then he got buzzed by a ****ing LW in Cotto. LOL.

Either way, you still haven't contested anything of my charges about Manny. Why are you trying to give him a pass on ducking black fighters since he went up to 135 and beyond? There was a black undisputed champ at 135 he faces Diaz, Black WBO champ at 140 he fights the weakest champ in the division in Hatton, who had already been KO'd by PBF and pretty much by Lazcano save for a crooked ref. Then at 147, he faces Clottey instead of Mosley, Berto, or Williams, after the Floyd fight fell through. He gets no pass from me.

 

Because the fact that you were outraged over something that has been perfectly standard in boxing throughout the years shows your level of knowledge about the sport.

Maybe if you spent more time getting into boxing and gaining some knowledge and less talking ****, that might help some.

By the way, you forgot again that you're supposed to be accusing Pacquiao of ducking 'African American fighters' not 'black fighters', they had to change it when he fought Clottey. I'm pretty sure there was a memo.

 

I really want to see floyd fight manny!! Will floyd school pac, or will manny pull floyds card! Manny is already a certified bad ass, a win over floyd would be HUGE!!

 

bump

 

Manny will never get any respect until fighting a pygmie.