amateur boxing records

Interesting thread. It shows, I think, that you can tell from the AMs whether a fighter will be good at pro. Just look at the list Rob posted, all world level pros and have barely any losses compared to wins. It'd be interesting to see a win-loss ratio too, I would give it a go but I'm a spaz with maths. Obviously there are exceptions to the rule, but in general a excellent AM record will equate to a good pro career :think

 

Good luck on your quest. I find this quite interesting actually for some reason :good

 

Just some others:

Mark Breland 110-1 (Olympic gold winner).
Courage Tshabalala 72-1 (72 KO's).
Laszlo Papp 288-12 (3x Olympic gold winner).
Mike McCallum 240-10.
Frankie Gavin 128-20 (World amateur champion).
Ray Robinson 85-0.

 

He didn't do too much at pro. A massive disappointment given his obvious (and immense) talent, stopping everyone in the Golden Gloves and all that.

 

Larry Holmes on the other hand was stoped quite a few times as an amateur, yet never really looked like being stopped in his prime (and post prime, bar Tyson) as a pro; awesome powers of recovery.

 

Yep, it's rare that you say a 2x 'World' champion underachieved.

 

A few things IMO.

One is that a few of his stoppages were to a renowned banger whose name currently escapes me (Nick something I think)

Another is that amateur fighters are protected more (and rightly so) so stoppages occur earlier than in pro figths (at least in Holmes time) giving them no chance to demonstrate their powers of recovery.

Holmes could be stunned and hurt as a pro (Weaver, Shavers, Mercer) but it was nigh on impossible to finish him off; IMO that was due to extra seasoning he picked up from training with Ali, and the fact that he fought good opposition moving up into World level (including his famous war with a past peak but still very useful Norton)

 

I will add that Larry only had less than 25 amateur fights.

 

Roy Jones JR 121-13
Joe Calzaghe 110-10
Naseem Hamed 62-5 (18ko's)

 

Wow. Also interesting to compare Gavin's 20 losses to the others on Rob's list. I mean I know it's only 10 (or less) losses, but it stands out significantly compared to the world clhampions. We will see in time if looking over am careers holds any water when forecasting how far they'll go pro. Gavin can be our first guinea pig. Does anyone have the records of fighters that didn't quite make it at world level, be interesting to compare to the ones that did make it.

 

Who were Tyson's AM losses to?