Here's another fantasy match-up with a twist. It's an unusual kind of match-up, because the aim is not primarily to win, but to do better comparatively than your opponent. 1992 Larry Holmes vs. 1973 George Foreman 1991 George Foreman vs. 1979 Larry Holmes Who does better in their comeback against their opponent in their prime? In the early 1990s, both were still good enough to beat top 10 heavyweights and take Holyfield the distance in hard fights. Most people rank Foreman and Holmes as equals or near equals in their prime (I've never seen them that far apart in an ATG list) but this tests how good (or bad) they were in their comeback. Distance is 12 rounds.
Holmes schools 91 Foreman silly, Foreman struggles to beat 92 Holmes unless he gets sparked, its hard to pick, Holmes may even upset young Foreman
That's an interesting position, because the old Foreman has the vastly greater reputation. Of course, that's partly just down to the KO of Moorer.
I agree with this. Larry never really lost his hand speed, and he even moved well at age 53. Shavers, Snipes and Tyson had speed George never possessed at any age. The cagey and experienced Holmes who schooled Mercer might have been a complete nightmare for young George. He would have beckoned Foreman to follow him into the corners, and of course George would take the bait. Foreman might have had a shot at the still developing Holmes preceding Shavers I, and he would have taken out the rusty and misfiring Holmes of the Tyson fight, but Larry would have been a miserable experience for him otherwise. (Let's not forget that Mercer was coming off his own lethal destruction of Morrison when Holmes derailed him. Larry wasn't afraid of Ray, and the 1992 version wouldn't be afraid of young Foreman either, to George's extreme detriment.)
You imply that Foreman would have his hands full with this, or an even older version of Larry Holmes. What do you make of Tyson's destruction of an aging Holmes? Remember that Tyson never fought 15 rounds, though
If they met tonight, let's say...even though it would be a pathetic spectacle to see, Holmes would outpoint Foreman.
Well, the thread specified 12 rounds, not 15. As I said in the post you replied to, Holmes was rusty and misfiring against Tyson, and Mike possessed speed at his peak that Foreman never approached at any time in his career. Unless Larry had a contact lens fall out (as he did against Holyfield, the only reason a peak Evander was able to beat him), he'd see everything George was aiming at him while those punches were still only a thought in Foreman's *****. Holmes would be well nourished with greasy fries and burgers, and well hydrated with booze, while George would be dehydrated from eating foods dessicated by his lean mean grilling machine. At some point, Foreman would hit Larry in the guts, and Holmes would puke on him, causing George to run out of the ring in horror and disgust.
1973 Foreman demolished Larry and knocks him out in about 5 rounds. 1979 Larry outboxes George and gives him big swelling and might stop George on TKO.
Holmes is foreman's kryptonite, holmes always wanted to fight him and it never happened because george knew he was too slow and would have got outboxed.
Larry turned the match down in 77 and it went to his stablemate instead. Holmes was offered 40X his largest purse and turned the fight down. And he should have. He was fighting the likes of Tom Prater and Ibar Arrington back then.
Good thread Kurgan :good Young Holmes would jab old George's head off until the referee rescued Foreman around midway. George's face would be really marked and puffed up by this time. Old Holmes would get cornered and battered by young Foreman forcing stoppage within five rounds.