The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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  1. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    I am considering the manifestation of motivation and ego.

    Apples to apples.

    However, as your primary motivation is to support Floyd come hell or high water I am clearly wasting my time by speaking to you.
     
  2. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No he conceded to 14 days as long as "it isn't too much blood". :huh

    -- The USADA does not do cut off dates
    -- The tests take as much blood as it takes AND a sample to be tested later

    Pac and any athlete in a decent testing program knows this. Pac is a liar.
     
  3. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Which drug is it that doesn't show up until later'?
     
  4. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No I understand what you were attempting to relate it too, but the comparison is broken.

    Not being understanding of a woman's circumstances and her unwillingness to move when you say move and this leading to you missing out on what may or may not be a fruitful relationship is a manifestation of ego.

    Where you COMPLETELY miss the boat is motivation.

    Boxing is a combat sport. Best case scenario you get hit and slightly brain damaged. Worst case scenario you are permanently disabled or even killed. The difference between a killer headache and visible brain damage could be 4 rounds where you are gassed and a guy has PED enhanced stamina pounding you repeatedly. You see how the two don't jibe? The risk/reward ratio makes your comparison kind of silly.

    I swear you guys suspend your critical thinking to dismiss everyone for being a FMJ fan. I am not here to support FMJ. I will be critical of him. I have not seen anything he has done that doesn't make sense!
     
  5. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That is not it. I won't/can't mention specific drugs because I am not deep into that world, but from a scientific perspective it makes sense.

    Basically there are in a constant evolving battle. An "effective" blood test from 10 years ago may miss most or all of the exotic drugs used today. So they hold a sample today so that if they make a breakthrough in testing tomorrow they can "back-test" samples.
     
  6. rushman

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    Now you are rewriting the whole scenario.

    Floyd agreed to 14 days. So the risk you are talking about was already considered and deemed acceptable.

    Changing his mind now is about ego and a lack of motivation to fight Pac.
     
  7. pejevan

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    That is a ***** trait!

    Count how many times you compliment each others post and you would think that the *****IDS are a big *** organization.

    Besides you are still an idiot! It never changed a bit!
     
  8. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    So why did Pac wait until after Floyd changed his mind to agree to 14 days?
     
  9. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No I am not. You are omitting a time line. The MOST important part in negotiations! This is what is so annoying about you people. It is like you just randomly forget pieces of history to support your point.

    -- FMJ says USADA random blood testing.
    -- Pac makes up MULTIPLE excuses over months as to why he won't do it
    -- Pac says up till 30
    -- 24/7 surfaces so Pac says 24 days
    -- They enter mediation
    -- FMJ meets in the middle between 0 and 30 and offers 14
    -- Pac says negotiations off 14 days was never offered
    -- Pac later says 14 days was offered, but the fight is off anyway
    -- FMJ is left looking dumb with no top level opponent
    -- Pac later tests at 20 days for Clottey fight
    -- The earthquake happens and frees Mosley to fight
    -- Pac does an average gate (monetarily) and average PPV buys
    -- FMJ does an excellent gate and PPV buys

    During this entire time FMJ negotiated in good faith Pac hasn't. Pac wasted 6 months of FMJ's career and ALMOST cost him close to a year of inactivity. Pac also has a backup fight in the wings if he decides to flake this time too with Margarito!

    Why would ANY fighter in their right mind enter negotiations without crystal clear terms? Why would anyone deal with him when he even issued a back door exit to his "acceptance" of 14 days? Then you talk about ego and motivation? That would just be ignorant business sense!

    This is so unclear to you because you choose to see only what you want to see. You know in your heart looking at my chain of events it is all 100% correct.
     
  10. eze

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    Floyd fans acknowledge that Ellerbe is weird and probably gay.

    While Pac fans constantly talk about it, make new threads about it, constantly photoshop their new fantasies and post them on this forum.
     
  11. Buzz Killington

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    Dude, you accuse people of being Floyd nuthuggers while you have Pac's sack in a death grip.

    Floyd put 14 days on the table, Pac refused. Floyd took it off the table.

    Months later, Pac says, "I'll take those 14 days now." Floyd says, "**** off, you had your chance. My last fight did double yours and I was being nice just by making the initial offer and going 50/50 because I routinely do better PPVs than your ***** ass. Say goodbye to the good guy, now you gotta take ALL the tests just for wasting my time and letting your ***** ass nuthuggers talk **** about me. If you and Arum had kept my name outta your mouths, it might be different. Now you gotta jump through hoops for the privilege of me whooping your ass."

    Simple enough.
     
  12. pejevan

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    What's the point of testing later in Boxing?

    Do they reverse the decision to a no contests even if the opponent is beaten senseless? Or do they require the purse to be returned after 5 or more years?

    The usual Olympic protocol does not work in boxing! There is no medal to return, etc. Infact, not all PEDS are beneficial to a boxer. Example, Xylocaine which is not banned in Olympics because it could be used to inject elbows or knees or joints, however should be illegal in boxing. There are many fighters who break their hands during the fight and they should be allowed to inject xylocaine to their hands to continue fighting competitively if it is allowed. Otherwise, ban it.
     
  13. Ech110

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    I thought they tested Mosley a couple days before the fight? didnt USADA pull into his driveway as they were getting ready to leave for Vegas? I'm almost positive they did. Was only for urine?
     
  14. Buzz Killington

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    Dude, I'm not the one with the Floyd avatar. Do you have his poster in your bedroom?
     
  15. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    yes
     
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