After watching Bisping, are you still tryin to tell me boxers couldn't compete?

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by HENDO, May 29, 2010.


  1. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol:

    Cuz you have got to be ****in kiddin me.

    Muy Thai, whatever the **** they know. Throw that **** to the side, cuz they were straight BOXIN.

    And they were SLOW. I mean, for real, they were slow and their technique was less than amateur.

    I've seen kids from the block slap box harder than these guys.

    I mean, are ya'll for real when you say elite boxers would have no chance?

    Be ****in serious.

    To be honest, I think it's the same kinda propaganda that surrounded guys like Jack Johnson.

    Now, I don't want to get into that, but imagine what handspeed and skill would do to these guys. It would be a massacre.

    And you're tellin me guys like Mosley, who's weight room strenght is probably PFP better than any CLEAN guy in MMA, can't learn to wrestle?

    That's asinine.

    ****, he just learns a sprawl, he's knockin mother ****ers out left and right.

    And Shane doesn't even got the best technique, but he would OVERWHELM these guys.

    Just wait for a Jack Johnson. He's coming...

    What will be the excuses?

    You know to be honest, people didn't like all that wrestling **** back in the day, and that's part of the reason why the sport of BOXING evolved to what it did.

    Boxing is FIGHTING without all the gay ****. No holding, no bein scared to hit.

    You gotta go out there and earn your money if you wanna win.

    But back to the point, these guys are BOXIN, and they simply NOT that good.

    **** Pavlik would make these guys look slow as ****. He would murder these dudes in standup. And I don't give a **** how many telegraphed kicks they do.
     
  2. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    First off genius Bisping and Miller wouldnt fight boxers like this. Miller is a Blackbelt and BJJ and Bisping is talented there to they would just shoot for takedowns and the fight would be over it takes years and years to get to the level of Jiujitsu that Miller and Bisping have which really isnt THAT good. Mosley isnt going to just learn the kind of takedown defense in 2-3 months that it takes to counter the takedown skills of guys who have been doing it for 5-6 years atleast and thats just the guys who took up wrestling as apart of MMA.
     
  3. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If his boxing is that bad, how good do you think his BJJ is?

    It's probably equally as shitty, and I'm not goin out on a limb considerin this his CAREER, and he's SLOW.

    There is no Fixin SLOW.

    And be real. Dudes come off the street and learn this ****.

    THis is such bull****.

    Whatthe **** is so hard about takedowdefense?

    For real?

    How the **** hard is it to sprawl?

    I mean, a ****in 3 year old could learn to sprawl.

    Tell me what the **** is soa hard about that ****?

    It ain't boxin.

    Boxin takes coordination, rhythmm. You don't even need that **** with wrestling.

    You just gotta have stamina, strength and know how.
     
  4. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Obviously you have never trained and for the local gyms sakes around you I ****ing hope you never do because you are just to stupid. How often do you really see guys just defend by using a sprawl ? You need balance, an understanding of how to properly use underhooks and overhooks, how to use your hips etc. If it was as easy as just dropping down and sprawling then how many guys would ever be took down at all ? BTW douche Jiujitsu is nothing like Boxing so why should a guy who sucks at Boxing automatically have shitty Jiujitsu ? So should we assume Mayweather has great grappling skills because hes a great boxer ? Jiujitsu is 10 times more important in MMA then Boxing is and thats a well known fact. Demian Maia goes out and wins the BJJ World Championships but he cant box worth a lick. How many dudes come off the streets, learn it and do very well in grappling arts without some previous background ? Aside from GSP (a special kind of athlete, with a sick work ethic that by the way took many years) theres very few. I take back what I said dude go find a grappling gym and see how you feel when some dude is tapping you 7 times in 2 minutes.
     
  5. Nosbor

    Nosbor Boxing Addict banned

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    Well said! But honestly, why bother?
     
  6. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    give a quality boxer a good year of ground work training, and he could be nasty

    but we won't even know, since a quality boxer can make in a night what these guys make in a career

    *i don't hate MMA by the way, so don't jump all over me
     
  7. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good point my man im alittle bored though the fights sucked and everyones asleep I aint got **** to do but argue with some jackass :yep I dont mind schooling an idiot occassionally.
     
  8. Nosbor

    Nosbor Boxing Addict banned

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    Believe me I appreciate the fact that you do.

    Check out the comment above where some genius is claiming that an elite boxer would only need a year of ground work to catch up. :patsch
     
  9. Gander Tasco

    Gander Tasco Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have to agree MMA fighters in general have very mediocre boxing skills. But they have to learn a wide variety of techniques.
     
  10. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah thats just absurd. Being a great boxer has nothing at all to do with your ground fighting ability. It takes about a year on average to get your BJJ Bluebelt, im a Bluebelt trust me im no beast. Thats just really having most of the basics, mostly defenses covered you know its around that intermediate level not even close to advanced. If takes world class wrestlers guys who have a great understanding of grappling obviously years to develop good strong Jiujitsu skills. Jiujitsu is such a complicated art I wouldnt even know where to begin when describing why. Theres a reason it takes about 9-10 years on average to earn a Blackbelt.
     
  11. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I agree on one thing, if elite boxers practice TD defense for 2 years straight. I mean testing their sprawl against World Class wrestlers. MMA will be extinct.
     
  12. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    I agree on one thing for sure everything you post is usually wrong every prediction is wrong and this is just another wrong statement.:-(
     
  13. chimba

    chimba Off the Somali Coast Full Member

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    I'm never wrong except Machida losing on a lucky punch. Thats fine though. I can be wrong once.
     
  14. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    Your delisional, I 've noticed over the years whether it be predictions on fights or your comments in mma in general...you are always wrong:blurp:deal
     
  15. Nosbor

    Nosbor Boxing Addict banned

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    It took me a year and a half to get my blue. I have been training grappling/jiu-jitsu for three years and will hopefully get my purple in 6-12 additional months. Long story short; I related to everything you have stated. :good