Wake up: V. Klit is a solid top-10 ATG!

He's not as tall as Valuev. So...I certainly hope you rank him lower than the Russian Bear...

 

...Are...Aren't we ranking on height? Did I misunderstand? Height/weight/greatness?

 

He's dominated a truly **** division, I'll give him that.

 

As much as I like the guy, there are a lot more than 7 ATG's with better resumes, skills, and other relevant intangibles. H2H he could be very competitive, but that's pure speculation. Want me to name 7? 20? Look at anyone's lists, they're all over the god damn place. Sheesh.

Oh, and Valuev would KO Vitali inside of ten seconds. On a bad night, 45 seconds. If he decides to clown, he might let him survive 3 rounds before he mercifully ends it with a crunkercut. He's been saving it for that muh****a. Peace.

 

And it's alll true.

 

OK I can see why you would rank Vitali high I agree with you there. But Wlad is a cheating egg chin piece of ****. I'm tired of him living off of his brothers name and fighting a bunch of feathered fisted tomato cans. And also holding and cheating even with the weak fighters he faces. I'm sick of him holding the belts and holding boxing fans hostage to his cheating ways. Its not our fault he can't take a punch. Boxing is hurting because of him. He should have retired after the Brewter fight. We knew for a fact he didn't have the chin to fight. And then he came back with this bull**** cheating style. I'm sick of it. Notice how nady has not been the ref in any of his fights. You know why? because they know he want put up with his cheating holding bull****. Watch wlad fight peter and cheat his way through the fight and then watch vitali kick peters ass the fair way. The is no question who the better fighter is. And that is vitali klitschko.

 

Jesus christ, man. You talk about holding so much, I'm starting to think that you're jealous Wlad's not holding you. Dream on lover, he's banging Drago's wife, I mean Hayden Pana-whatzahoozie.

 

Please, Vitali would never get into the ring with a bonafide ATG in Valuev, he would just conveniently "injure" himself in training camp four times and retire to avoid fighting Valuev.

 

Your insight and level-headedness is a breath of fresh air. :good

Now get on board the express:

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=229836

 

Unfortunetly there's no way to gauge his greatness. He has fallen victim to the same thing Tyson fell victim to. He rules a weak era. The only other two fighters he fought that merit discussion he lost to. His power is world class his skills are solid his size is a huge advantage but how can we call him an all time great when he has absolutley zero wins over anyone considered great?

 

And Liston fought a bunch of guys I think were shite. And Johnson defended against a bunch of middleweights. And Holmes fought guys like Scott Frank until the cows came home...