Moorer Holyfield 2. Discuss it and fill me in.

I don't know if Holy was juiced. He always had a body like a Greek God, even at Cruiserweight.

With the amount of kids this guy had, it's easy to see how he might lose focus. Maybe he just lost faith in himself at the time of the losses.

 

As an undisputed light heavyweight champion, he might have become regarded as top five all time, and if he opted to halt his move up in weight at cruiser, he may have been HOF bound for his work in that division alone. He was a respectable heavyweight, but never the best in the world. I think Botha was his best heavyweight win, a late round stoppage over an undefeated and unimpaired (albeit steroided) opponent.

Regarding the so called excuses for Evander's loss to Moorer, it was physicians like Ronald Stephens and cardiologist Douglas Morris who were explaining what happened at the time, not Holyfield and Thomas. The rematch was not another closely contested showdown like Holyfield-Bowe II, but a dominating blowout by the substantially older Holyfield, so much so as to lend full credence to the heart malfunction explanation for the earlier loss.

Of course he wasn't cured by faith. He probably just needed to give his body some rest and recovery, a chance to heal.

 

It was hepatitis wasn't it??

 

Steak and eggs don't make anyone fat , and they are actually healthy , especially the steak. The other things that might come with them do make you fat and harm your health.

 

good post indeed. But in Moorer defense it can be said he was also hit while down against Tua .
Also Holyfield started at 190 as opposed to Moorer at 175 , so Holyfield did have a natural advantage in size ( also height ) .

 

Moorer was the IBF HW Champ and was 4-0 (1) since his loss to Foreman. In these 4 fights he beat Melvin Foster W10, Axel Schulz WSD12 (for the vacant IBF title), Frans Botha TKO12 (who the title was stripped from), and Vaughan Bean WMD12.

Holyfield was the WBA HW Champ and had beat Mike Tyson twice coming into the fight.

Moorer was giving Holyfield problems with his heavy jab and southpaw stance... he's actually right handed btw.

I thought Holyfield looked pretty washed up at certain points of the fight to be honest with you. I'm a huge Holyfield fan btw. Holyfield fought in spurts but when he did he looked very good. He threw fast and hard combinations that hurt Moorer. Holyfield relied on his toughness in this fight and it paid off. Bottom line... Holyfield could handle Moorer's shots but Moorer couldn't handle Holyfield's. Holyfield had to eat some punches in order to land his own shots from time to time.

Moorer was down five times and even after the 5th knockdown he wanted to continue... the ref had seen enough though and stopped it between rounds 8 and 9. Moorer showed a lot of heart and should have been able to build off of the loss, maybe even push for a rubber match with Holyfield... but he didn't. Moorer took the next 3 years off!!!

 

To play devil's advocate for a second, one can argue that Moorer in their rematch was older and had lost his touch.

 

Moorer looked good when it started, he hurt Holyfield and he seemed to be boxing well. However as things progressed he came apart more and more, though he still had his moments.

He got dropped about 5 times before he was stopped; he got a lot of respect from me that night cause he seemed pretty ****ing determined.

 

Does anyone think that Holy of the early 90s beats Lewis? Holy gave lewis close fights in 1999 at age 36, and holy's combinations were like non existent in the fights with Lewis. Why didn't he attack lewis more with combinations?

 

Yes, but who was the more washed up of the two? Evander was a full five years older than Moorer, had suffered multiple health issues, and was taking intermittant periods of time off here and there.. I don't think that the argument that " Moorer was shot, and Holy wasn't " is going to cut the mustard here.

 

Holy wasnt injured and he was very confident coming off the Tyson fights. I dont think King Kong could have beaten Holyfield at that point.
I think Holyfield pressured Moorer a little better in the second fight and didnt let Moorer dictate the fight from the outside as much. Moorer was a very good counterpuncher because he was a southpaw and could hook pretty good off his jab.

 

I do. I think Holyfield would set a much faster pace for Lewis and if he turned it into a similar fight that Mercer drug him into Holyfield would win by KO late rounds.

 

He was certainly not in great shape, but he also had looked pretty shitty in previous fights. Botha had him hurt pretty good in the previous fight. Moorer just never had a heavyweight chin against anyone, but his safety first heavyweight style kept him alive against the mid level contenders. He would have always gotten crushed by the better fighters in my opinion, the Tyson, Lewis, Bowe level guys.

 

No.... Hepatitus is what supposedly forced out Henry Akinwande from their 1998 title fight in New York....... Holy would go on to fight Vaughn Bean on Showtime a few months later is a snoozer.....

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Holyfield had "The Hep" as well.