No fluke with this, Carter's punches were wonderfully compact and accurate, he seemed to land at will on Griffith and was outboxing him before he overpowered him, which was quick. The Hurricane was just a great puncher [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgDxA78CJho[/ame] Its more like HEarns-Duran, Foster-Tiger, than anything, although obviously Carter isn't as great as those men
Relax, buddy. Mike is undeniably great - and Rubin isn't in his league. I was just commenting on the similarity of the dynamic and the outcome - not trying to intimate that the talent gap wasn't much wider in Griffith-Carter than in Curry-McCallum (which bodhi seems to have understood). The thread is a success IMO - very informative. Trusted sources have opined that this flick is just Hollywood fluff, so I'll err on the side of believing them and enjoying it as just that and nothing more. I am a bit of a sucker for boxing bios/autobios (even factually pliant and downright cuckoo ones), so "The 16th Round" may warrant picking up if it's at least an engaging read. Is it? Also, can any of the old-timers answer my query as to whether Giardello-Carter was considered that controversial at the time?
Was Giardellos decision over Carter controversial at that time ? The answer was NO...The vast consensus was that the thirty four year old Giardello outboxed Carter using his great experience, that Joey Giardello had...Nary a peep I can remember...To sell protest books today, the authors have to distort history ,to enhance their left agenda, whatever the cost to the memory of Joey Giardello... Better off reading the wizard of Oz..More factual....
"The December 1964 fight between Giardello and Carter was part of the 1999 movie The Hurricane starring Denzel Washington that told the story of how Carter served 19 years in prison after being convicted in 1967 of three murders. The conviction was later overturned. It was the movie’s depiction of the bout, which suggested that Giardello had won a unanimous decision unfairly, that sparked a federal defamation lawsuit from the former champ. He settled for undisclosed terms with Universal Pictures, Beacon Communications and Azoff Films. “For 19 years, I fought the greatest fighters around and I beat Carter fair and square,” Giardello told the Associated Press in 2000. “I just wanted to set the record straight, and I think it has been.”"
You got it wrong. I meant the gap between Carter and Griffith is bigger than that between McCallum and Curry. Ah, I see, IB already explained it.
I loved this film and am a big fan of Denzel, but I only recently found out that this movie is full of sh*t. I don't know if I would even be able to watch it again. If it were just some movie and not claiming to be a "true" story then yes, it would be a great film. Basically what happened here, is a man who may or may not have killed some people got out and practically re-wrote his life. It makes me sick. I do not have an opinion to whether or not Carter is guilty of murder, but his boxing career and specifically the Giardello fight is a disgrace in this movie. Carter is portrayed as the victim in this movie over and over again. Wow, it is crazy how hollywood can just rewrite history by making a film. HOLLYWOOD: "F*ck it! That is how it happened and that's it! Go f*ck yourself all of you people with facts against our movie."
Yeah, i agree it was more like Hearns Duran than a sudden big punch catching him cold scenario, Carter just walked right through him.Griffith fought so many top contenders regularly,that it's easy to forgive something like this happening just the once though.
This was movie worthy. :good I don't think they included it though, which is a shame because along with the Griffith stoppage it's Carter's best display of punching power.
The backlash against the hurricane has actually left Carter often quite underestimated i''d say.He was a really good fighter, if only for a short period of time.
He was a good fighter, but despite the Griffith win he came up short against the three leading middleweights of his day, Tiger, an aging Giardello and Archer. In another era, or at junior middleweight, who knows.