Whos greater Chavez or Jones ?

:bbb What do you guys think? Both of these fighters have the diehards who insist they are with the elite greats of all time, and others feel they are not even in the ATGs top 30.

 

Well, they're certainly both in my top thirty but I have to go with Jones. Spanned more weight and did better at it and I think is rightfully perceived as the more difficult force in his prime at his prime weight(s) to contend with. Although both extremely difficult, don't get me wrong.

 

Hey, you don't mean Davy Jones from the Monkees, right? Because all he ever did was get smashed by Sonny Liston.

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Anybody who doesnt rank Chavez and Roy in the top 30 atg is a ****in **** who likes to blow the old timers.

Both looked invisible in their primes, and stuck around waaayyyy too long after thier primes had ended, losing to guys they had no business losing to.

Overall though... I'll take Roy as being slightly greater, and CLEARLY better.

 

I don't think so, man. I could swear I've seen both of them in their primes very clearly.

 

How do you look invisible anyway?:huh

 

Jones may aswell have been invisable, thats how hard he was to hit

 

Jones' defence is over-rated. His timing is under-rated.

 

If you gauge defence by how infrequently someone gets hit then Jones's defence is an atg one.

 

That's bull****. I think that if I wrote a top 30, both would be there or thereabouts, but to say that someone who has them in the 30-45 bracket is a "****" is just moronic. Neither Chavez nor Jones compiled the sort of resume that makes them an absolute must pick in a top 30. Guys like Luis Manuel Rodriguez, Holman Williams and Carlos Ortiz rarely make it into the p4p top 30s I see on here, and those guys had far more great fighters and far more excellent wins on their ledgers than either Chavez or Jones. You may think they merit inclusion and that's perfectly valid, but so is someone else saying they didn't quite make the cut based on who they fought.

 

Chavez is in the mid level of great fighters. RJJ is a borderline great fighter.

RJJ should of been up there competing with Robinson as the finest fighter ever, but he choose to avoid the fights that could of put on that level. Which is a real shame and somewhat silly, as I would of favoured RJJ over any 160 to 175lber in his mid/late 90s peak.

 

Jones for sure. Chavez looked a lot different at the higher weights. Jones still dominated.

 

:huh Chavez dominated three divisions; RJJ only two tops.

 

Big difference was that Jones,Chavez were unbeateable and elite fighters for a longer period than the guys you mentioned.