Why didn't Ali rematch Foreman?

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  1. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think Frazier 3 was the bigger fight initially because Frazier beat Ali, but then again Ali himself believed Frazier to be shot, so maybe they thought it was easy

    After Frazier 3, Ali was pretty much done, he should have retired but wanted to hang onto championship status. They still fought tough opposition but another Foreman would have been another life and death fight for Ali, I don't blame Ali for avoiding it for a few years

    If it happens in 75, Ali wins again, if it happens from 77 onwards Ali is most likely getting stopped, 76 is a toss up probably Ali
     
  2. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Alfredo Evangelista was the best heavyweight in his household !!! Do you remember his fight with Billy Aird ? Billy would have won if he had n't have caught a nasty case of Spanish homedecisionitis !
     
  3. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Danny McAlinden ! I'd forgotten about him. Those of us who are of a certain vintage can remember him beating Ali. Muhammad's younger brother Rahman,of course.
     
  4. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nice photo McGrain !
     
  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Thanks. I took it myself I wish.
     
  6. Jear

    Jear Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I was sure he was, He was definitely Rings number one right through 76, Foreman became number one after Norton lost fight 3 to Ali as Ken dropped to two. Just went through my 76 Ring mags and can find no mention of George being mandatory, only in the November issue in the Le Doux review it says George wants to have another fight before a title shot
     
  7. Jear

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    Youngs only victory of note after his loss to Ali in 76 was a decision win over Ali victim Lyle. What suggests he was better than Ali less than a year after he lost to him?
    I think Ali definitely beat Young
     
  8. les

    les boxerman Full Member

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    the rope a jobe wouldn't work twice.ali isn't stupid
     
  9. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    He wasn't. Foreman was, Frazier for a short while. Ali didn't have a mandatory defence since Manila.



    Correct, until thei 3rd fight of course. Mike Colbert was their #1 at middelweight too- it still didn't make him #1 for any sanctioning bodies. Same with Norton.



    He was #1 from (approximate dates): Nov 74 to summer 75, November 75 till March 77 (or whenever he lost to Young). Norton was never the #1 contender for the title until after Foreman retired.
     
  10. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    Here's a little treat for you Ste...



    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLJhiaqkf_o[/ame]


    It's like two 12-year old army cadets trying to recreate Hagler-Hearns.
     
  11. McGrain

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    :lol:

    What a strange little ring, what a horrible referee and what an epic commentary.
     
  12. Stevie G

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    :good Thanks. I remember the fight. Teerible,was n't it ?
     
  13. Stevie G

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    McAlinded once said that he thought he was cursed when he was British title holder ! Wonder why...? :lol:
     
  14. My dinner with Conteh

    My dinner with Conteh Tending Bepi Ros' grave again Full Member

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    A farce. I grew up knowing loads about that fight before i'd even seen it, my uncle used to talk about how bad it was all the time. :yep
     
  15. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Am I the only one here who thinks that Ali was beating Foreman to the punch in the center of the ring as well? His technique was simply better as a boxer, and even though he couldn't dance as well and would have stamina issues trying to do so, Foreman's was much worse. I watched the fight twice yesterday, and the parts where the fight was off the ropes, Ali was still dominant. Ali's jab and cross were much faster than anything foreman could swing wildly at him, and while it would have been closer, I don't think a rematch would have turned out with a different victor; Ali's chin was clearly something else. We can never know for sure, but if you watch those few parts again, you'll see that the rope a dope is not the only way possible in the universe for him to beat Foreman, simply the best and most efficient strategy.