Offense vs defense in boxing

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  1. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    What if you like Bernard Hopkins?:think
     
  2. cris3000

    cris3000 Active Member Full Member

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    Nobody likes him anymore!!
     
  3. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Where the hell does he fall? :think

    I don't think "unconventional tactics" was an option. If you sat down and asked, what does he do well? I would be hard pressed to answer one thing. Hopkins is just... Hopkins.
     
  4. pejevan

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    under hypothetical situatiuon, good offense most of the time trumphs good defense!

    However, in actual situation, offensive fighters tend to be neglectful or fail to develop their defense because their offense is successful most of the time. When they meet a good defensive fighter, then they don't know what to do. Think of Darchinyan or Tyson, or even Jeff Lacy.

    On the other hand, a defensive fighter tends to be more rounded because they need to! As a general rule (with exceptions of course), defensive fighters don't have the same power as offensive fighters and therefore, their range of arsenal in term of variety of punches are more diverse as they need it more than probably a KO offensive fighter who would probably throw all straights. Think of Mijares, or Calderon.
     
  5. VIP

    VIP Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Offense is more important.

    But the great fighters have great defense as well.
    Even in teams sports defense is important to becoming a great team.
     
  6. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    Defense by far its boxing not a street fight its the science and art of getting hit and not getting hit also historically the best defensive wizards last longer than the all offense guys who are burn outs they are a spark but guys like hopkins and robinson and whitaker and floyd last forever
     
  7. maryann

    maryann Well-Known Member Full Member

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    All i want is floyd-pac fight to happen. That can be a good gauge on wether offense is better than defense.
     
  8. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Offense wins fights just ask joshua clottey. His defense wasn't good enough vs the offensive tornado manny pacquiao.
     
  9. Critic

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    How do you rate Clottey's Defense?

    How do you rate Pac's Offense?























    Who's the Victor?
     
  10. GoldenArms

    GoldenArms Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I voted for D to break the tie at 16-15.

    As far as the Clottey vs Manny comparisons.....Clottey's defense is overrated. He may not get hit with a lot of clean shots, but he doesn't move his head at all and is not a good counter puncher.
     
  11. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Yes, you know exactly what I'm talking about.:good
     
  12. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    You need both man. You can be great at one or the other, but it doesn't guarantee victory. Defensive fighters tend to be very smart in the ring because they already anticipate and are prepared to dodge or avoid shots, while many offensive fighters will negate their defense in order to score more or try to score a knockdown.

    I might give the defensive fighter the edge, but like I mentioned before it doesn't guarantee a win. Defensive fighters I think are a rarer bunch, but think more in the ring and are usually more patient. If they score a knockdown, they don't rush in to go for the kill, eliminating chances of their opponents to counterattack. Defensive fighters also usually have more decision wins so they are able to go the distance no problem and have great stamina.
     
  13. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    even you gotta laugh with that...:D
     
  14. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well I'd say Hops was the best since Pea and now Floyd has rightfully taken that spot...

    You're right he doesn't leave certain openings Pea left.. But he's also not close to Pea's combination punching..
     
  15. Marnoff

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