Without a doubt Tommy Caruthers would be cringing that anyone claiming to be associated with him would be carrying on a Collateraldamage has. And I will see you one Tommy Caruthers and raise you a Lenny McPherson. The Guv would have eaten Tommy for breakfast.
Lots of active duty military personal train and even fight MMA; Most use MMA concepts as the core of the hand to hand combat training. So if by real fight you mean something that would take place during a military operation, ie with knifes or improvised weapons, then obviously the person with the experience of that type of environment plus a good level of basic skills would be favored. If by "real fight" you mean 2 unarmed fighters one on one, just without MMA rules or a cage/ring, the MMA fighter is going to absolutely dominate. It's not like military personal aren't allowed to train or fight MMA, plenty do, the most successful being Brian Stann, a limited but powerful fighter. Conversely, many great MMA fighters are ex military. Fedor, Sergei Kharitanov, Wanderlei Silva, Randy Couture, many more. Do you not think Fedor, with his Russian Army training would not be completely comfortable in any fighting situation? Prime example would be Sergei vs Aleksander; Sergei had military training supplemented with MMA, Aleks was a criminal who was much more skillful and well rounded in his training compared to Sergei who mostly focused on what was taught to him as a paratrooper, mostly boxing and some basic Judo/Sambo.
This content is protected Legal, used, not that effective. If you think that is going to stop GSP from taking down and mauling anybody, let alone somebody who is not a proven fighter, let alone a proven fighter capable of stopping takedowns nobody can, you seem a bit ill informed.
How can you prove technique and ability at something, in this case NHB fighting, without ever having done that thing? For the record a prime Tank Abbott is no ****ing joke, and I would lay good odds to him beating 90% of the pre UFC 1 martial arts "experts." He could wrestle quite effectively if he had to.
Where were the Gracies? They were proving they were fighters by, wait for it, FIGHTING, and winning at that. Where was Bruce? He was more than welcome to join, or hell, fight anybody, but he never did. If he wanted to learn from boxing and wrestling, plenty of boxers and wrestlers would have obliged. Since he claims to have learned Judo it is pretty surprising that he never, you know, tried to compete at any form of Judo. Hell of a cha-cha dancer though. Oh, this guy was street wise though? Well ****, I guess the Gracies never learned about the streets in ****ING BRAZIL. I guess a guy like CroCop was too afraid of the streets, that's why he joined a anti-terror police force. Walking? Great, how about fighting? Oh wait, he was a bouncer (the point of which is to avoid fights, for any bouncer with a brain rather than proving how small your **** is by being a bouncer so you can fight). I'm sure Croatian kickboxing legend / organized crime figurehead Branko Ciatic was just too scared to be a big bad tough bouncer in big bad tough Scotland.
Tank Abbott is ****ing joke and you are too. And all pre Martial arts experts were one dimensional. And so was Gracie, who would also get destroyed by Bruce, who not only was eons faster, harder hitting but a hell of a lot more versatile. Graie got ****in pounded out by Matt Hughes who's nothing more than a wrestler but he had more tools han Gracie did, that's because Graice never evolved. And had Bruce Lee competed in **** bag tornaments, not only wouldn't be the well known Legend he is but he wouldn't gotten his point across systems and styles. And Tornament fighting is not the same as street fighting, and neither UFC(which also has rules). So far mytructor has made 3 different guys with your atitude apologize after he showed them that Jeet Kune Do does,work which is an complete mma style and not only that all the techniques flow into one. Eventually I'll be doing the same to guys like you and I'll love every second of it because people like you think you really know and than find out you've been very misinformed.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su2oisGzFII&feature=PlayList&p=7ADE4920AFEDD953&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=42[/ame] here goes a seen with Bruce and Lebell. And Lebell never beat up Bruce Lee and they never even trained together which is also a lie. Bruce Lee also had Judo in Jeet Kune Do.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FslDJDQ6Pd0[/ame] One of Bruce former Students and he breaks down the whole Tornament BS that you guys keep locking on too.
A very old Gracie got beat by a very ****ing good Hughes, who absolutely out grappled several BJJ blackbelts. Get over it, Gracies have fought, Bruce did **** all. Never fought, not a fighter. Never ****ed, still a virgin. Bruce Lee is the equivlant of the ultimate masturbation champion. If you think Tank is a joke, he is as a modern MMA fighter, but pre UFC, he would beat any JKD teacher in the country, easily. Very Easily.
So another jerkoff without the balls to actually fight defending the other. I can beat the **** out of chinese dudes outside of bars too, sign me a ****ing movie deal. Also the jerkoff has never heard of Vale Tudo. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAY7yBQwP3c[/ame] Just look at those rules. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG95v6NoDOM[/ame] Rules are clearly stopping that guy. Man, Wand would be so ****ed without rules right? I mean a 130 lb cha cha dancer might poke his eye. [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A8Eg0hLlLc[/ame] The man in the black gi is bruce lee.