The UFC have missed trick with GSP vs KOS as the next TUF !!!

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  1. Vitor Belfort

    Vitor Belfort Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't want to see another brits vs usa ultimate fighter. I like season 4 when they had the comebacks. I would like to see some of the veterans fight each other and get a title shot.

    Serra is more deserving of a title shot than koscheck or hardy. I rather see alves(when his medically cleared)-fitch-koscheck-hardy etc be on the ultimate fighter fighting each other to get a title shot. I think that would be better.
     
  2. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Thumb in the eye

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    An infinitely better fighter finishing the fight


    You should probably suck an entire bag of dicks.
     
  3. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    No im saying his striking is the most well rounded in the whole of MMA (Alves right ??) ..............

    I think Fitch technically puts Koscheck to shame if im honest , his technique is so text book that his power suffers for this , Koscheck's lack of stand up technical ability was on full display when got stopped by Thiago , he throws his punches very very wide , and telegraphs his overhand right , its almost a haymaker , he will catch certain fighters with this but against better strikers he's getting found out .................. , you could see how bamboozled he was just by Daleys feints , there is no doubt at all that his stand up has improved but technically he'll always be flawed .

    With Fitch , everything he does (standing up) is technically so sound that he barely takes risks , he has a solid defence , his footwork is the most improved aspect of his game , he is always in a position to engage and counter without taking many shots , his muay thai in general for me is very very under rated , the only critisism id have with fitch is that he could look to let fly a bit more with solid shots as oppose to scoring shots , but as a technical evaluation Fitch is a joy to watch .
     
  4. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Why dont you post the whole fight ???? , and then go and suck Koschecks dick if he's got one the ****in ****** !!!!!
     
  5. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Alves absolutely does not have the most well rounded striking, compare his boxing to somebody like Anderson or BJ.
     
  6. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Because its 2 rounds of Koscheck outclassing him pretty easily. What part of getting choked out in under 2 full rounds despite thumbing the guy in the eye impressed you exactly?
     
  7. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I wanna know when Johnson was on the verge of choking Koscheck like that dude said ? It was a pretty entertaining card ill probably pop in my DVD of it later and ill be checking for it. Somehow I doubt ill see anything close to Johnson nearly choking a gassing Koscheck :-(
     
  8. hopkinsfan07

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    Do know what well rounded means?

    His boxing may not be at BJs level but his kicks and clinch work is levels above...making him more well rounded.

    Silva hasnt got great boxing, he is a pure muay thai guy with great reactions and counterpunching. Silva is a big arguement to people saying Alvez as the most well rounded striker, as is Shogun Rua.
     
  9. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    :lol::lol:

    What a dick :patsch

    Well rounded big man ??????? , not boxing , well rounded means the full array of stand up ability ...................

    :hi:
     
  10. thewinfella

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    Id like to know where in any of my posts i suggested Johnson nearly subbed Koscheck :huh:huh

    What i said was , as Johnson was gaining the upper hand and looking to close the fight Koscheck done his usual throwing himself around the cage AFTER NOT BEING POKED IN THE EYE :deal , you could see the look of releif on Koschecks face when he got the sub , Johnson was closing on him and Koscheck was feeling the pace . Johnson's huge flaw is his ground game and Koscheck is not known for his JJ even though he has a pretty solid ground game off his back , once the fight went there Johnson looked every inch the novice and got tapped . After the fight Koscheck immediatley admitted to not training as hard as he could of and said he was happy he got the W !!!!!!!!

    What i love on this forum is people who come on here and clearly dont do MMA and have a couple of UFC dvd's and all of a sudden are experts on the subject then talk a bit of **** , research buddy , do your research .
     
  11. jimmie

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    Pal dont tell me what I do alright. Ive boxed over a dozen times in the amateurs, competed in grappling tournaments and even fought MMA once on an hours notice, and im a BJJ Bluebelt. Does any of this make me any sort of expert obviously not but to tell me ive never trained or competed kinda pisses me off. You cleary dont know anything about the fight game. You are trying to tell me while Koscheck was taking Johnson to the ground, passing his guard, pounding in his face and choking him out he was the one who was gassing ? No dude if he was fresh he would have been able to avoid Koscheck's takedowns like he did in round 1.
     
  12. thewinfella

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    Aologies .........................

    If what you say is true i apologise , but ill tell you right now im a student of this game and by you telling me that i know nothing of the fight game kind of pisses me off too !!!!!!

    Johnson was pushing the pace on the feet and Koscheck was struggling with it :deal , you'll know that grappling fitness especially when defending takedowns and prodominantly being in bad positions is a different kind of fitness , and thats where Koscheck got his advantage , not to mention the gulf in class in that certain department between the two fighters , IMHO , i beleive Koscheck was on his way to getting caught and subsequently KO'd by Johnson , thats just my hunch as a fighter , i maybe wrong but thats the impression i was getting watching the fight .
     
  13. jimmie

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    Ok mistakes where made on both parts so therefore im sorry.
     
  14. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Koscheck was always winning that fight. Johnson was, at times, only losing by a small amount and showing potential, but he was losing.

    Do you think Johnson is a better fighter? You are wrong if so.

    "Relieved at getting the sub":lol:

    Yes fighters that win tend to look relieved that they have done what they wanted to do. I suppose you expect him to look.....how exactly?

    Koscheck is a better fighter, and it showed throughout the fight.
     
  15. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    I agree Koscheck is more well rounded than Johnson yes , actually by a wide wide margin , which is no acheivement bearing in mind Johnson has shown no improvement in his JJ !!!! , the man is a novice on the ground and in todays game (a bit like Paul Daley) stand up alone can only get you so far !!!!!

    One thing i have noticed about you is that you are a bit of a Koscheck groupy and these little clips keep appearing of Josh Koscheck posted by you , which is a little bit scary weird bearing in mind they show Koscheck clearly cheating in both of them and your actually using them as evidence to say your boy aint a cheat :lol::good

    Koscheck's reaction was one of pure releif , not elation or happines but a " thank **** i tapped that ****in beast " which is fine , if the ****in ***** had grinded it out and took the man down without an unfair rest AGAIN !!!! , look ive just got a bee in my bonnet with Koscheck , the man is a good fighter but he's a cheat , and because he has a big mouth he is rewarded with a phoney title shot !!!!! i just dont like it , i beleive Koscheck cheated against Johnson and Daley , in the Johnson case because he was looking to gain a rest , in the Daley case simply because the guy is a cheat , Daley threw and illegal strike but IT DID NOT LAND :deal .

    I think we should rap this up , FYI i agree with you yes Kos is a better all round fighter than Johnson , does that make u happy !!! :yep