Eastside Boxing Heavyweight Rankings debate

Thats sounds about right. I´d think Gomez should be somewhat higher and Holyfield probably shouldn´t be there

 

Agree. Boystov don't deserve a top ten spot. What has he done to earn that?

Thompson and Gomez should both outrank Boystov, no more than he's done, thus far. Boystov's most known wins are Bidenko, Hawkins, and Maddelone, for cryin out loud!

 

This one seems to be pretty good :good
I´d change Arreola with Gomez though. And I would not put Evander in here. I´d prefer Helenius as 15th.

 

Tomasz Adamek*

 

I like your rankings Rob and think they're better than The Ring rankings but why is Valuev still on there? He's **** mate and getting worse every fight. After the Holyfield debacle he lost all credibility. I can understand him being top 10ish before the Haye fight but not after. I would pick probably 15 hws to beat him. His resume is pretty **** too. I think #3-10 can be argued many ways. Have no problem with Haye or Adamek higher than I have them.

Champ-Wlad
1. Vitali
2. Povetkin
3. Chambers
4. Chagaev
5. Adamek
6. David Haye
7. Thompson
8. Peter
9. Arreola
10. Solis

 

Champion: Wladimir Klitschko
1. Vitali Klitschko
2. David Haye
3. Ruslan Chagaev
4. Alexander Povetkin
5. Eddie Chambers
6. Nicolai Valuev
7. Tomasz Adamek
8. Chris Arreola
9. Tony Thompson
10. Odlandier Solis
11. Juan Carlos Gomez
12. Smauel Peter
13. Dennis Boystov
14. Robert Helenius
15. Francesco Pianeta

This division is a complete mess. Outside of either Klitschko versus Haye, Povetkin, and Valuev the fights simply aren't that enticing because the current generation of contenders has been taken apart by Wlad and Vitali. Boystov and Helenius might be very good down the road (Pianeta less so, but still solid), but all three of these guys need 3-4 more fights before taking their chances against the elite.

 

Absurd to put Haye in front of Povetkin or Chagaev...

Povetkin beat....Estrada, Byrd, Brock, Chambers...no contest here.

Chagaev beat better versions of Valuev and Ruiz, plus Virchis.

Haye has beaten...Valuev...plus some decent wins at cruiser.

A better list...

Champ: Wlad
1. Vitali
2. Povetkin
3. Chagaev
4. Chambers
5. Haye
6. Adamek
7. Peter
8. Valuev
9. Thompson
10. Gomez

Someone please explain how one could objectively rate Haye above Povetkin....

 

Povetkin best wins are Chambers in 2008 and old Byrd in 2007. Hayes victory over Valuev and Ruiz equals those victories and they are more recent.
So there is really no reason to rank him above Haye.

 

Povetkin's last 4 fights have been against Taurus Sykes, Jason Estrada, Leo Nolan and Javier Mora..

Haye's heavyweight fights (Barrett, Vaulev, Ruiz) have at least been slightly better than that.

But it's a close one and I can certainly see why Povetkin could be above Haye in the rankings and he definitely deserves his shot at Wlad next.

 

what have chambers, valuev or chagaev achieved to put them higher than haye?