My top 20 Biggest Punchers 1940-1950 Rough Draft

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  1. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    I have to come back to my statement... I checked Boxrec and between '40-'50 he only fought twice or three times in the heavyweight limit, and even on those occasions he was between 175 and 180lbs. Yeah, i guess it's fair not to include him.. not a major player at heavyweight (yet).
     
  2. OLD FOGEY

    OLD FOGEY Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice list. Everyone will probably have some questions about order except for Louis at #1 which should be a no-brainer

    1. My one disagreement is with Big Boy Brown. I just don't think he did enough to get into a top twenty punchers list. Who to substitute-possibilities which come to mind.

    A. Alberto Lovell--55 ko's in 88 fights-top ko victims: Hank Hankinson, Angel Sotillo, Alfredo Lagay

    B. Arturo Godoy--record ordinary but fought and stopped top men. 49 ko's in 124 fights-top ko victims: Luis Angel Firpo, Jack Roper, Buddy Walker, Tony Musto, Buddy Knox

    C. Bernie Reynolds--33 ko's in 69 fights-top ko victims: Nathan Mann, Walter Hafer, Bill Weinberg, James J Parker

    D. Omelio Agramonte--31 ko's in 67 fights-top ko victims: Johnny Haynes, Gene Jones, Johnny Flynn, Joe Lindsay

    I think you should substitute one of these for Brown.

    2. There have been recommendations to put Max Baer or Galento, or Bob Baker or Clarence Henry, on this list. My take would be to stick to men who were actually more or less at their best in the forties. A list like this could be made for the other decades. I would point out that if you consider Baker, why not Marciano? He had more fights and knockouts in the forties than Baker did. I think you did a good job of focusing on the forties fighters.
     
  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Big Boy Brown was Joe Louis's cousin. He was known for his punching power..especially in the papers. Louis himself said in one such IBRO monthly article I received that "Brown wasn't much of a fighter, but he could really punch hard".

    Here's a brief article on Big Boy Brown's power

    http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...&pg=4463,560575&dq=alfred+big+boy+brown&hl=en

    Just look at Brown's build on the previous page. The guy is a mammoth.


    - Ive watched Agramonte on film vs Louis. He was not a puncher. He was a slick boxer with excellent footwork. Reynolds was another who was not really a puncher. Albert Lovell is a great choice though...I will consider him.

    Thanx for noticing. That was the plan.
     
  4. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Big Boy Brown's inclusion was worth just for the picture that was posted. :good

    What do you think of Joe Baksi? He doesn't have the best knockout record, but he scored some good stoppage wins, two particularly brutal ones against Woodcock & Mills, and he did knock down most of his opponents. He was like the Chuvalo of his time.

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  5. SuzieQ49

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    Can you believe this guy was Joe Louis's cousin? :lol:
     
  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Baksi was a mean *******! He has never been described to me as a puncher. More of a Brute Strength Mauler, who beat some of his opponents into submission. A tough nut that Baksi was. Very big and Strong. One of the things that seemed to hold him back was his lack of a big punch.
     
  7. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    :lol: He's built like a friggin American Bison!
     
  8. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Agreed. He scored mostly decisions in the first 30 fights of his career but in his last 30 he scored around 20 KO's. He was the first man to stop Gunnar Bärlund with punches (not on cuts), and he also knocked out Woodcock, Reynolds, Walker, Knox, Mills, and had Mauriello and Nova on the canvas. Maybe not deserving of being on the list for sheer raw power though.
     
  9. OLD FOGEY

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    The Great Plains is now one of the world's most lush and fertile agricultural breadbaskets. It used to be known as the Great American Desert when the bison herds kept the grass eaten down to the soil. I am beginning to understand how that could have happened.
     
  10. SuzieQ49

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    Anyone out there surprised to find out Buddy Baer barely squeeked in the top 10? This showcases the quality of depth of Punchers the 1940s heavyweight division had. Many of them were screwed out of title shots because of World War II.
     
  11. janitor

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    Buddy Baer is sort of the Shannon Briggs figure of his era.

    His record for first round knockouts still stands among the best today, but owing partly to padding on his resume.

    It is worth noting that he put away Abe Simon more quickly than the bomber himself.