Tua Versus Marciano

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  1. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fighting small, making Lewis punch downward thus reducing his reach advantage and make him lean over to counter him. For example. I think size is for Lewis as hard to overcome as for Marciano in this fight.
     
  2. young griffo

    young griffo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And he'd at the very least, possess a better haircut than Tua did as well.
     
  3. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    The crouch leaves you open to other punches, like uppercuts. And yes his 67inch reach and amazing speed is going to see him counter over LEwis's 82inch treble jab :patsch

    Marciano wouldn't do better than Tua against Lewis and may not well make it out the first if Lewis starts fast
     
  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    You mean by giving up around 50-60lbs in lean body mass? Great strategy
     
  5. janitor

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    Basicaly yes.

    He would press the fight and force matters one way or the other.
     
  6. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    If by considerable size advantage you mean he was carrying a lot more body fat then you are absolutely correct.

    Beyond that the size difference is not as great as you think. Tua would be the first opponent that Marciano had faced who did not have a significant advantage over him in terms of height or reach.

    I happen to think that Tua did hit a bit harder but in all technical aspects of the game Marciano was better.
     
  7. TommyV

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    So Tua beats Frazier and Marciano now? I take it the gulf in class and technical ability is being thrown out the window for these match-ups, and we are relying on 'Tua has a better chin because he's never been done and has more power' myth?
     
  8. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    I love Tua, but he is starting to get overrated. Tua does not beat any ATG fighter, regardless of styles. All 3 of the best Swarmers Dempsey, Frazier, Marciano beat Tua. I still think highly of Tua. He is just nowhere near good enough to be picked over any All Time Great. I love his late clutch power, it's awesome.
     
  9. The Mongoose

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    So Tua's master plan was to not train for his title fight, gain 20 lbs of fat, and seduce Lewis with his mighty man boobs? Now thats a great strategy.

    He got his long awaited title shot and couldn't even bother to give himself a chance by getting in decent shape. He didn't train, plodded around the ring in his shell, tried a few hooks, called it a day. So yes, I think a fit 185 lb Marciano who would do anything to win, would probably do a bit better. Lose or knocked out, he would give a better account of himself.
     
  10. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Understatement of the year.
     
  11. Tin_Ribs

    Tin_Ribs Me Full Member

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    This.

    Tua gets more mileage from sparking Ruiz and going blow-for-blow with Ibeabuchi than what the porn trade got from Ron Jeremy.
     
  12. mcvey

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    Marciano would no doubt take punishment to get inside ,and very likely he would go down on his shield.
    What he would not do is settle for survival after sampling the first right hand.
    A boxing match is predicated on the assumption that both men will be trying to win.
    I know this because I have some past experience of it,which I only mention, because you felt the need to explain the Noble Art to me ,which I also might add , evolved in its present form , in MY country.
     
  13. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Tua swallowed his knob big time when he fought Lewis.
     
  14. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    With all due respect sir Marciano is not just some 180lb. fighter. He had no body fat whatsoever when he was fighting. Marciano could weigh as much as 192 and that was all sinewy muscle. Tua, by contrast, even when in shape always carried a certain amount of softness around his midsection. The natural size difference between the two men is really not that pronounced.

    Also, Tua is not exactly an ATG... He has a great chin and can punch extremely well. But his various flaws have been exposed over a very good but exactly great career. Marciano is not just some 180lb pugilist. And DT is not exactly the second coming of a prime Liston or Tyson.

    Anything can happen but I stand by my prediction of a Marciano UD.
     
  15. RockysSplitNose

    RockysSplitNose Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This Big Time!!

    And This Big Time Too!!! ???