Weight-Training:- A routine for gaining size.

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  1. Rakim

    Rakim Captain ****wit Full Member

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    I'm pretty close to reaching my 800lb target now. As I benched 100kg this morning I've only got to add 2.5kg to my deadlift and 5kg to my squat, which shouldn't take too long. Once I've done this I'll be doing a size routine for a few months, but as I've only ever done strength I'll need some tips.

    What sets and reps do you recommend? I never feel very exhausted with 3x9, nowhere near as much as when I'm doing 5x5 anyway. Can anyone give me some examples of routines for size?
     
  2. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hypertrophy is meant to be around 30-50 total reps. 3x10, 10x3, 4x10, 5x10, 3x15, 2x25, whatever you want, just need the total reps to fall between those two numbers.

    Google one of these - Stripped down hypertrophy, Westside for skinny *******s 3, Hybrid hypertrophy, The waterbury method, 5/3/1 (I'm doing this now), Starting strength, Built like a badass, i Bodybuilder. There's loads of routines.

    Main thing is eating a lot.
     
  3. Rakim

    Rakim Captain ****wit Full Member

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    Cheers mate, I was hoping you'd reply. I think I'll have a good look at that 5/3/1 routine, you're not the first person to recommend that. I doubt I'll start for another couple of months yet, but I'd like time to sort a decent plan out.


    I'm in luck.
     
  4. andy mack

    andy mack Member Full Member

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    I thought for a second that was your fighting weight! :D
     
  5. Chris Hansen

    Chris Hansen Member Full Member

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    My old routine...

    Monday-(chest, tri's) Flat bench, start at 135 x12 to warm up
    155x10

    185x5

    225x5

    275x1

    315x1

    340x1

    Weighted dips (50 pounds on a belt) 4 sets of 15

    Pushups till failure, usually I could do 4 sets of 25

    Triceps extension on cable machine, 150 x 10
    175x10 (4 sets)
    Triceps on flat bench, 100 pounds (4 sets)

    Tuesday+ Saturday legs

    Squats 135 x15, 175x 10, 225 x10, 275 x5, 315 x5 340 x 1, 375 x1, 405x 1

    Then leg press machine, 7 plates each side, 5 sets of 10
    Weighted calf raises 2 plates each side, 4 sets of 25, then non weighted calf raises on stairs till failure, 4 sets.

    ....I dont really feel like typing my back routine out lol, if you want it i'll do it but I have a feeling i'm typing this for nothing.

    BTW, I would workout 5 days a week, with thursday being my Day off.

    Monday(chest, tri's) tues(legs) Wednesday Back, bi's) thurs off, Fri (chest tri's) sat legs, sun off....Then the following week I would switch it around like so..Monday (Back, bi's) tue same, Wed (chest, tri's) thur off, friday (back bi's), sat same

    Basically I switch it up every week to hit each muscle group twice. If you need any info on eating and such let me know haha


    EDIT: I went from 175 pounds to 215 in about a year doing this routine, it puts a shitload of muscle on you.
     
  6. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are two forms of hypertrophy sarcoplasmic and myofibrillar. Myofibrillar hypertrophy is growth of the fiber itself this is strength. However, myofibrillar doesn't add a great deal of size when compared to sarcoplasmic hypertrophy which is an increase in the sarcoplasmic fluid, the muscles fuel. This is what body builders train for more often than not. But t is also more transient than myofibrillar hypertrophy. Stop training and the fluid leaves real quick. Myofibrillar tends to stay a lot longer.

    The rep range for myofibrillar hypertrophy is about 3-5 even as high as 6. The sarcoplasmic range around 6-12. There is some over lap. If you are training for sarcoplasmic hypertrophy you want more sets with less rest. Myofibrillar fewer sets more rest.
     
  7. Rakim

    Rakim Captain ****wit Full Member

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    Cheers mate :good
     
  8. Rakim

    Rakim Captain ****wit Full Member

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    Ok, I had no idea about any of that. To hit this 'overlap', would doing 6x6 with 2 minutes rest between sets be the way to go?


    Another thing I don't understand:- If hypertrophy requires you to hit between the 30-40 rep range, what happens on my bench press day where I go from 6x6 on bench (for example) as a primary exercise, to 6x6 on incline presses as a second exercise? Will that count as hitting 72 reps for triceps, delts and pecs?!
     
  9. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'd stick to lower reps, it takes longer to gain size but you'll be as stong as you look.

    When powerlifters cut to low body fat their muscle mass is just scary.

    Dave Tate -
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    Matt Kroczaleski -
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    These guys are pure muscle and ridiculously strong.
     
  10. Rakim

    Rakim Captain ****wit Full Member

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    I'm going to stick with gaining strength in the long term, I'm only doing this size routine for a few months to mix my gym sessions up a bit.
     
  11. Jazzo

    Jazzo Non-Facebook Fag Full Member

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    Do the heavy stuff first.

    Then drop down to tearing the muscle up. [in the context of one session]

    That is good strength so it sounds like you just have to pick up a good routine with a diet to go.
     
  12. Rakim

    Rakim Captain ****wit Full Member

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    Can anyone help me out with this bit?
     
  13. SupraTT24

    SupraTT24 Heart Of A Champion Full Member

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    One thing alot of people that lift for getting stronger don't realize is that aside from how your program is made up and the literal part of training, is how big of a role your recovery plays in gaining size and strength, and how to recover. If you want body building size your core lifts should be 3 sets of 8-12 reps @ 75% of your 1 rep max with only about a minute of rest between sets. This should get you what your looking for if your eating and sleeping right and making sure you don't sit around all day afterwards. Don't go workout more but play some basketball or something to keep your muscles active, but not strained
     
  14. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Glad you left out the technicalities :lol:
     
  15. doylexxx

    doylexxx Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    answer is yes I would guess