45 Year-Old Marciano

Then how come a past prime Harold Johnson did better in the 60s against common oponents than Muhamad Ali and Sonny Liston?

This is a guy who lost to Rocky Marciano's best opponents.

 

If a 207 pound Ken Norton could get flattened multiple times and blasted out by a skinny, scrawny, bony, puny 6'4" 188 pound stringbean upstart Garcia, then the rock solid 188 pound 5'10" tank that was Marciano would have killed him.

 

Marciono a "tank"?

 

A bit of a silly thread. If it does anything it helps us realize how great Holmes/Foreman comebacks were. Duodenom points this out.

 

I'll say this. Some of those young bucks better watch the **** out of Marciano's power. He may have been old and slow as hell, but that old man could hit hard.

 

Certainly compared to Garcia. His feet were anchored to the ground, making him extremely difficult to move. (Check out the Layne footage. Rex's whole strategy seemed based on bulling Rocky backwards, but Marciano lived up to his Rock nickname and refused to budge an inch.) Walcott hit him with some monstrous shots, yet couldn't knock him into making any territorial concessions. Watch Louis come surging after Marciano stablemate Brion, then watch him do nothing of the kind against Rocky.

When Marciano was growing up, he was obsessed with making himself into the strongest kid on the block. (This was even before he discovered his natural punching prowess, and may have had something to do with the physical frailties of his father Pete.) He assiduously gathered all the scraps of information he could find on how to develop his physical strength, and was sometimes embarrassed to be caught doing things like chin ups on a tree branch when his friends showed up for a visit. When he and Goldman published their book on boxing and bodybuilding in 1957, there was very little mainstream literature on the subject. (I have a copy for myself, but if you also want one to own, you can order it from Amazon for only $749.99. My advice would be to borrow one from a library and make a duplicate.)

Today, Marciano would weigh considerably more than 200 pounds. It took an insane amount of training and discipline to get his weight under 190. (He was also considerably ahead of his time when it came to the application of strength training, which he'd certainly apply today for increasing his weight.)

 

I'm sure he could but we all know that there is more to it than that specially at that level.

 

Foreman was old and slow as hell during his comeback, but the punch is usually the last thing to go (unless your name is Mugabe), and if alive today, Rocky still wouldn't be a man to be messed with. (His mother lived to be 83, so maybe he was destined for a long natural lifespan.)

 

i knew you guys haven't got a clue but now you're taking the ultimate ****. marciano has no chance against the top boys 15 years after he retired struggling with bums like FAT cockell. Ali at the time of that computer farce was outta boxing for 2 years and well overweight. fighting a peak ali my ass. the ali who fought williams or terrell woulda took an old marciano EASY! stop talking shite...............................

 

Unbelievable Post. You really know your stuff! :good:good:good


I always felt Marciano's strength was his best attribute. He was so strong for his size. So strong. Not everyone of his opponents said he was the hardest hitter, but every one of them unquestionably said he was by far the strongest they ever fought.

 

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8:29-8:33 thats REAL power