Calzaghe would of been murdered by James Toney (Video)

Calzaghe smashes steroid abuser Toney to shreds, RJJ utterly exposed this hype job, and Calzaghe called Toney out, Toney didn't say a word, thats how scared he is, when does Toney not ever respond?

Calzaghe stops him , too fast, too relentless and just too good.

 

Well said.

Toneys been exposed by some real useless fighters, I mean yes hes had a decent career with help of steroids, but he is grotesquely over-rated.

 

How Toney-Calzaghe would have turned out can only be a matter of guessing.

However, Toney is clearly the greater fighter. Simply comparing the two mens records clearly shows that. Yeah, Toney had some off-nights and some losses he shouldn't have had, but then again he fought a LOT more, and he fought literally everybody. Had Calzaghe fought that same opposition, I guess he would have some losses too - probably not to a Drake Thdazi or Dave Tiberi, but most probably to a peak Roy Jones, Mike McCallum and Michael Nunn..
As it stands, Calzaghes best win is a prime Mikkel Kessler, and that is a very good win indeed. Jeff Lacy is another good win, but then he has a win over a past it Eubank, beat a shell of Roy Jones and has 'win' over an ancient Bernard Hopkins (a fight that could've gone either way). That's basically it.

To answer the question, I guess if Toney comes in well prepared and motivated he would win a decision over Calzaghe. He would certainly not murder Calzaghe. Calzaghe always had trouble with skilled, fast boxers, and Toney has been very skilled and also had fast hands.
Toney himself had problems with speed and activity, and Calzaghe is fast and active, so if Toney doesn't show up at his best I can also see Calzaghe outhustling Toney.

 

Joe smashed rjj already, and when he was shot, he smashed a prime Eubank who Toney ducked, Post voided before I even go into the rest of this shambolic postatsch

 

This is a joke-post, right?

If not, wtf are you smoking??? That cheap **** ain't good for you, don't be such a tight-arse and get some quality stuff next time..

Yeah, Joe 'smashed' a version of Roy Jones that was more washed up than Whitney Houston. Great stuff. And btw, he was getting knocked down doing it too.

And Joe 'smashed' a 'prime Eubank' :huh Joe did what he had to do and won a decision against an over the hill Eubank is more like it. Nothing wrong with that though.
Oh, and Eubank wanted no part of Toney, you must have mixed up something there.. now go 'smash' yourself

 

nice summary.

this is a pick 'em from where i stand. joe was always a sucker for a right hand and struggled against guys who stood back and made him go to them (although james was a bit more come forward at the lower weights). on the other hand toney's flat footed style and trouble with volume could see him drop the decision against the quicker more active man.

 

You comparing the RJJ that Toney fought to the RJJ that Calzaghe fought is pathetic and shows your arrogance. So now Danny Green is better then Toney and Calzaghe because he beat RJJ way more convincingly then Calzaghe did? Your logic is twisted. PRIME EUBANK? It was his third last fight! He lost the 2 next fights he had as well! Did you start watching boxing yesterday?

James Toney is 200x the fighter Joe Calzaghe ever dreamed of becoming. You can't even put their resume side by side. Like some posters mentioned earlier, Toney fought higher caliber fighters much more frequently. If Calzaghe was faced with the same schedule as Toney he would be considered a B-level fighter because he would have lost; a lot.

Toney is way higher on my greats list then Calzaghe. But H2H it would be a closer fight, it really depends on which JT shows up. While Calzaghe definately has speed and movement on his side, his loose defense and arm punching will be very susceptible to JT right hand counters off the roll. JT can go up and downstairs comfortably and Calzaghe always leaves himself open when hes flailing his arms around like a mad man.

Calzaghe is a good fighter, but his style is more suited against boxer-punchers who can't adjust mid-fight and counter him due to his speed. JT is a beautiful counter puncher who will be able to expose Calzaghe's flaws. It would be a good fight though :good

 

I got to Danny Green, then stopped, as the RJJ that showed against Green, was not the RJJ that showed against Calzaghe.

Calzaghe was shot, RJJ showed up in tip top shape, fast as ever, and proved teh old adage that every fighter has one great fight in him, his best was not close to Joes worse.

Calzaghe has better foot movement than Toney, way faster, Calzaghe can adapt to any fight, despite the guy supporting Toney with his avatar... Joe has never had troubel with speed , or anyone, he is undefeated against the best.

He beat Hopkins by winning 9 rounds ( would have Ko'ed him out but for cheating) He beat a prime Eubank when he was still green, he smashed and ruined Kessler, he ruined Lacy, Collins ducked him, Toney ate his way to HW to duck him, Hopkins ducked him in 02, RJJ refused to fight him instead to pick on civil servants.

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Calzaghe does a Ricky Martin dance around RJJ's handspeed, thats how good Joe is, Toney was completely exposed by RJJ, he fluked a few wins too after being dominated and scoring fluke KO wins, noway could Toney hurt Joe, and lets not forget, Toney is a massive drugs cheat.

 

You honestly saying that RJJ was prime when he fought Calzaghe? LOL, I was always taught not to argue with idiots so I guess I'm gonna stop now.

You comparing the RJJ that Calzaghe fought to RJJ-pre Ruiz fight just shows that you, sir, do not know boxing. You did not bring up the fact that was Eubanks 3rd last fight where he lost his last 3 fights. Many boxing observers feel that B-Hop clearly outclassed Joe Calzaghe.

You obviously have a man crush on Calzaghe, I'm not even gonna both arguing with you because all the facts are in front of you and you just deny them. I'm sure some other posters will try to aimlessly school you, but I see through your bull****.

 

You honestly saying that RJJ was prime when he fought Calzaghe? LOL, I was always taught not to argue with idiots so I guess I'm gonna stop now.

Then you carried on atsch:rofl

Many observers? Americans? who knows, but no one can argue Bhop outclassed him, jesus, Bhop was prime, at his natrual weight, in his home city, Joe was shot, brittle hands, fighting in the uSA for the first time ( suffering from nerves at first) and at a new un-natrual weight, after round 3, he schooled Bhop and would have knocked him out but for the bs cheating Cortez.

RJJ was a good fighter, with a very padded record, and when Calzaghe smashed RJJ, he proved once and for all RJJ was another well manufactured boxer ( we mustn't forget RJJ was on steroids like Toney too)

EuBank losing twice to Thompson is hardly a bad thing, he jumped weight classes to fight a huge hitting, granite chinned prime champion atsch

 

Roy was shot to **** when he fought Calzaghe.....and no Joe C was NOT shot like you claim...... not prime but no where near shot.

 

He was shot, hence why he retired.

RJJ fought as if he were prime,s howing the same speed, more will powerthan before, and for once in his career, he showed heart, showing how much he wanted to win.

He knew beatig Joe would cement his legacy and fire him to the top of the tree again, it was a real once in a life time chance at that stage of his career, he was the best he had been in years and off a long winning streak.

 

You know I was going to actually reply to all your points, but when you said B-hop was prime as well when he fought Calzaghe I just remembered why I refused to argue with you before. Can you post your scorecard for Calzaghe - Bhop please?

 

refuse again?

Bhop scored his best win and most dominating performance in the fight after Joe, against undisputed unbeaten champ Pavlik, Hop was never about speed, KO power, output, he was all about guile, ring craft and cunning, which was maxed when he fought Joe.

I told you, Hop won the first 3 rounds, from then on Calzaghes nerves vanished and Calzaghe schooled him, including making him cheat in round 10 when he was about to KO him, Cortez saved Hopkins and we all know it.

 

Although Montell Griffin was a very decent fighter JT lost to another fighter in his prime who I consider a can and is lesser fighter than Calzaghe. Here come the excuses.........

So basically Calzaghe would have been extremely competitive with a prime Toney!