Cotto is one (losing fight) step away from being Ricky Hatton

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  1. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :patsch.....You disagree? Harris...you need to find a hobby that you actually understand or can appreciate. Of course Cotto's "D" is better than Ricky's. That's not even debatable. The offense in my opinion are about level although Cotto has a better jab. both work great to the body but I think Cotto is a better boxer overall.
     
  2. Don Q

    Don Q Active Member Full Member

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    Are you trying to say that Cotto and Hatton are on the same level and therefore implying they have faced the same level of competition? Because if you are, you should probably check your boxing knowledge.:bbb
     
  3. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    In terms of the level of comp...it's about even. Cotto favored slightly. Hatton has some really big names on his resume as well. He was for 4 yrs on the P4P ranks after his win over KT and then Dominating the Jr WW division for 4 yrs. He faught Floyd and Manny...lost both. Cotto faced Manny and Shane and Zab...he won all but 1. Ricky and Cotto are on similar levels but I think Cotto edges him slightly.
     
  4. MURK20

    MURK20 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Totally agree. Cotto is in no way overrated the way Hatton was. I think the Cotto before Margarito would've gave Pacman hell.
     
  5. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That Cotto who faced Marg would have been toast. That Cotto was too aggressive. The way he fought Manny was more controlled and intelligent....it wasn't enough but hey....he went 12 rounds. Had he been the fighter before Marg he would have been more aggressive and open to Manny's offense...which would have made for an earlier night.
     
  6. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    No no no. Cotto's offence is a LOT better than Hatton's. He doesn't need to clinch after throwing combinations, he much more consistent in how he punches, his form's a lot better and his control of distance is superior in every way.

    There's a reason Hatton got knocked out by Manny in the second and Cotto in the 12th.
     
  7. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Did you watch the fight? Cotto wasn't aggressive enough against Margo early. He back-pedalled for six rounds instead of using Margo's slower start to deal real damage. Against Manny he was too aggressive when he had success in the third.
     
  8. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Are you kidding me...YES... miguel was out boxing Marg but he was far to aggressive and willing to go toe to toe with marg which was his downfall. Cotto was back peddling but he was BOXING...and had he stayed commited to boxing he could have beat marg UD.

    But with Cotto's mentality at the time...his "PR PRIDE" when he got hit, he'd bang with marg. He stopped boxing and wanted to show his bravado....BAD MOVE.

    With Manny he fought more controlled. he still banged with manny in spots but he was more cautious and for good reason. When he traded with Manny...Manny baited him in, covered up and allowed Miguel an opportunity to open up with his offense. That allowed Miguel to gain some confidence....but you saw when Manny would throw with cotto...Cotto began to box. It still wasn't enough...but he in my opinion is a more intelligent fighter now which is better for Cotto's career.
     
  9. charlievint

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    Cotto's offense is good...so is Ricky's. The difference is how they set up their offense. Cotto's is more intelligent....he uses little crafty defensive moves to create offense. Ricky utilizes mostly positioning of his feet to create openings for his body attack which is vicious.

    Clinching isn't necessarily a bad thing for boxers..if it helps there style. For Ricky...it's a necessity b/c his defense isnt' the best. it's good, but at this level it's below par.

    Ricks control of distance is different than Cotto's...one is not better or worse. Ricky controls distance by cutting off the ring and figthing in close quarters. Cotto not so much...he's in mid range to land combos and to set up the hook to the body which is his bread and butter.

    Rick lost to Manny in Two b/c Ricky came out blazing looking to beat the smaller fighter. And he got caught. Cotto fought more intelligently and didn't make the same mistakes Ricky did.
     
  10. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    williams p4p top 5? :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  11. OBCboxer

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    Angulo is nothing special and would be outclassed by Cotto, who can also stay on the outside as well.

    Maragrito would be beaten this time around and can't use concrete to wear Cotto down and break him.

    Williams isn't as sure a thing as you think. He gives up his height often and this can be his undoing against Cotto. I'd still make Paul a slight favorite

    Mayweather would beat him but Cotto will have his moments.

    Pacquiao will beat him again but not in the same fashion, Cotto will make a tougher fight with Steward in his corner.
     
  12. BoneCollecter

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    he's far more skilled than hatton, i understand the parallel but I'm not completely sold on it yet. If he rematches margo and beats him he's a hero
     
  13. BoneCollecter

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    and he could potentially take out williams with body shots no question
     
  14. OBCboxer

    OBCboxer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He can but his workrate would have to be higher than usual. Williams will make it easy for Cotto to get inside because his defense is terrible.
     
  15. Scar

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    If he takes another loss he's the Puerto Rican Hatton?, that's some biased bull**** right there. He's a three weight division champion with MANY solid world class victories who continues to aim for the best. Another loss does NOTHING. One of his losses was against a cheating scumbag and the next was against the P4P#1 and greatest of this generation so there's no shame there at all. A third loss puts an end to his career?, nonsense.

    It's these kind of ******ed posts and comments that bring out the most idiotic fans and there are A LOT of ******s that follow the sport completely clueless of what they watch. 35 ****ing victories, 2 losses and one more loss puts an end to his career even after all he accomplished?, jackass.

    I would love to see him send Chavez Jr. out on a stretcher carried by his own father. After all the fraud fights that he went life and death in against the same unranked cabdriver his father made a living feasting on WITH steroids:)rofl) it's about time to put an end to this farce and his laughable PPVs. I don't think Bob Arum has the patience to continue promoting this trash any longer and feeding him to Cotto is a good choice. Cotto deserves it, he has had a chain of tough fights lately an easy one in the middle to stay active is not a bad idea. All fighters do it.